<p>sally305, rape is a very serious crime. The boy may face long sentence in prison, labeled as sex offender for the rest of his life.</p>
<p>At a minimum, a girl should contact police as soon as it is reasonably possible. And try to preserve all evidence. </p>
<p>DNA would prove whether it was a sexual encounter. Again, legal system is equipped to deal with these cases, colleges - are not a substitute for legal system.</p>
<p>The girl may be damaged for her lifetime, too.<br>
I cannot believe decades of trying to bring attention to these issues results in an argument about women who might try to ruin an innocent male. Or, why colleges should turn a blind eye. Again, I find it hard to believe this poster is as familiar as she claims to be with colleges and their responsibilities.</p>
<p>I also find it hard to believe that “she” is a mother of a daughter.</p>
<p>I’ve called ■■■■■ before.</p>
<p>Yes, you have. </p>
<p>I will never understand why anyone would want to ■■■■■. Unless it’s a work-at-home scheme where one gets paid by the post while watching HGTV and drinking Malbec. That I could do. :)</p>
<p>I am not a ■■■■■. I am mother of four daughters.</p>
<p>I suggest using standard legal procedures. What’s wrong with this? Police is better equipped to deal with crime than college administrators.</p>
<p>I don’t remember a name of a famous feminist … she was saying that “girls never lie about rape” … until her own son was accused by his former girlfriend.</p>
<p>To kill a mockingbird … tawana brawley … Duke lacrosse case … women have many reasons to lie.</p>
<p>to lookingforward ,</p>
<p>Once again, if rape occurred it should be followed by a lengthy sentence. If there was no rape, boy should be able to prove his innocence.</p>
<p>In either case, let’s leave it to police and courts … not to college administrators.</p>
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<p>This is absurd. Even within the legal system, there are different venues for different purposes - criminal trials determine whether to impose punishment, and civil trials determine whether to find liability and impose damages. The same act can give rise to both criminal punishment and civil liability, and when appropriate, to action by a college. Or a housing complex. Or whatever the situation calls for. To say that an act should be criminally punished and nothing else is just at odds with the way society works.</p>
<p>One day suspension for sexual assault looks ridiculous. It doesn’t serve justice, IMHO. There has to be a criminal investigation, IMHO.</p>
<p>Did you read this whole thread?<br>
And have you looked at Title IX yet?</p>
<p>I’m not saying each poster has to look at T9, but when there is such utter confusion about what the U is required to do, it baffles me one wouldn’t dig into the available info. Would just keep repeating, “I don’t think this is right. I think it should be different.”</p>
<p>This is one of the most incredibly complex and layered issues, and yes the original poster is emphatically a ■■■■■. Rape (euphemistically called sexual misconduct by the colleges) is a crime. Maybe the most heinous in a civilized society short of murder. Its an epidemic in our society. Full stop. We as a society need dramatic changes. We need to grow. Its long, long, long overdue. We are committing horrific, painful, life-altering, crimes against each other.</p>
<p>This year will likely be a watershed year for the colleges (and the military). The attention and awareness focused on the issue has finally reached the critical stage. Yale is ground zero. They are far from unique, but at least they have a strong activist community that is willing to stay on the offensive. Not to say that others at Amherst, Occidental, Swarthmore, USC, Berkeley, Colorado, North Carolina, etc. arent also making a difference, but Yale is inextricably tied up with the issue and will be so for the next decade. It really doesnt matter what Yale does or how they respond. Its axiomatic that whatever they do will face immense criticism because theyre not really solving the underlying problem: the existence and prevalence of rape in our society. Sadly, we seem to have a tough battle ahead to solve that.</p>
<p>But as the title of this thread suggests, the issue is also quickly evolving. Its no longer about whether Yale (or some other college) is discouraging or suppressing rape complaints or failing to announce to the community. That was last years news. That battle has almost been won. Its clean up time now. Its no longer about Clery reporting or Title IX discrimination or better announcements. We’re now migrating into the real issue . . . altering behavior and changing culture. Can Title IX really address that? Title IX was intended to level the playing field (figuratively and literally). Now its being used to mete out justice – raw justice – in the hopes that enough raw justice will make a difference. Is that really the case? Will enough raw or vigilante justice really make a difference? And what happens when the raw justice makes its way over to the Courts (Wells, Harris, Bleiler, McCormick III, etc., etc.)?</p>
<p>The dialogue is now entirely about the sanction imposed for the crime, regardless of the facts of the complaint or the lack of due process involved. Colleges are now in the business of meting out justice to criminals because our justice system doesnt seem to do its job very well. And the activists feign outrage that the colleges dont mete out vigilante justice very well. This is all a sham. Its spin in the fight for a better society. Imagine that. </p>
<p>The original poster is absolutely a ■■■■■ perhaps unintentionally so. Suggesting here that Yale has deep, dark, dirty little secrets and is a bastion for rapists (bolstered by a diffident administration) is a sly move. Yale is probably a safer college than most anywhere else now. At least they have an activist community raising awareness and focusing attention on the issue rather than sweeping it under the carpet. They have a opposition group standing up against a horrific crime. I would much rather my daughter attend Yale because of the attention, not despite it. This post doesnt belong here. Take it to the Title IX websites.</p>
<p>Hmm, not sure you mean the OP.</p>
<p>Agree with your posts, but you’re calling out the wrong ■■■■■. </p>
<p>Excellent detective work though. I too found it strange that the news report fail to provide any details of this particular incident. Same thing with Occidental, although I suspect the book report writer did something truly heinous.</p>