<p>umm... Wesleyan does (or at least did) take major into account. They admit most people that apply with a science-related major</p>
<p>wow... its not worth it (the arguing). but for what it's worth, i still stand by my point... anddd colleges definitely take into account your prospective major!(even if it's subconciously)... please dont argue with that!... . i applied to a top school with only 2 years of science... but i applied for international relations.</p>
<p>So where did you apply and where did you end up getting in Lobzz?</p>
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You have to have four years of english to graduate. So I am not sure what you mean....
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<p>The point is that both the sciences and English are basic academic subjects, and while you have a solid base of 4 yrs of English, the OP has just 2 years in science. So, while you have what is recommended by most colleges, the OP is deficient in science to the point that strength in another area is not likely to compensate. </p>
<p>From Lobzz's chances thread; I agree with you, it's not worth arguing about, I rest my case:</p>
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Chance Terrible student for stern(no really, i have low marks and such):D
-Im an International
-Fairly poor country(Egypt)
-M
-no financial aid needed</p>
<p>-HS GPA:3.0</p>
<p>-SATIs:CR570 W660 M520
-SATIIs(hoping for) :Us History720-800 MathIC620-680</p>
<p>-TOEFL(expected marks) : out of 120: maybe 110-120</p>
<p>ECs:
-Soccer team(2 years)
-Model United Nations (4 years)
-Founder & President of debate club(just getting started)
-Co-founder of a school newspaper(over now)
-Interviewed the girls' Vball team last tournament
-Talent show host</p>
<p>Essays:
-How losing 54lbs completely changed my life and my confidence
-How i started a mini business when i was 9, lost money then got back on my feet</p>
<p>RECs:
Counselor: should be okay
english teacher: going to talk about my leadership qualities etc.
math teacher: should be good</p>
<p>Other schools to chance me for:
-Mcgill(canada)
-George Washington University
-Brown University(try to keep and open mind please)
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<p>I am really surprised at all of comforting lies that are going around on this thread. If you are applying to top tier schools, then you must have a competitive transcript to even be considered. This means four plus years of English, math, science, social sciences, and foreign language. High school is a liberal education; you do not specialize, and to be a competitive applicant to the top tier schools, you must do well in these courses and take many of them. There's no arguing with this. And do you know what the funny thing is? This is just the bare minimum to be successful in elite admissions. Some of you are simply underestimating the power of these admissions offices. Thousands upon thousands of high school seniors are applying for these coveted spots, with about 70% of them capable of being successful at the top schools, but the admissions offices can only pick so few. If any of you who have not been accepted to a top tier school think that you will be successful with two years of science, you are wrong. If you don't believe me, come back to this thread in April and tell all of the experienced parents (whose advice you all are largely ignoring) and those of us who will be attending top schools how your results came out.</p>
<p>This isn't meant to be hateful or rude, however. This is just a dose of reality. Learn to love your safeties and matches. Build your college list from the bottom up!</p>
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But the vast majority of Ivy admits probably take a wide array of classes because they are so intelligent that they can do well in any thing.
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<p>BINGO! And the OP will not have a wide variety of classes nor the opportunity to show that s/he "can do well in anything." The standard rule of thumb for everyone applying to highly selective colleges is 4 year each of all five academic subjects (math, science, history, english, foreign language). Of course, the math-science kids at our school will double AP science classes and end up with 5- years. Even the future english-history majors who are successful at highly selective colleges complete calc BC (5th year).</p>
<p>re: prospective major -- yes and no. Someone applying to a highly selective college as a prospective engineer (or math or science major) with sub-600 Math scores is gonna need a LOT of something else..... If applying as a Classics major, better have something on the academic side or ECs to show interest. The reason I fully believe that intended major is a minor admissions factor is that, pyschologically, adcoms can't just admit a large class of premed prospies (even if adcoms know with certainty that the vast majority will earn Cs in chem and change majors).</p>
<p>Won't the Vball interview compensate for the scores, GPA and lack of rigor? Sorry, I couldn't resist.</p>
<p>^^</p>
<p>The sad part is that this student even listed that as an extra curricular activity. A one-time interview of the volleyball team is somehow meaningful enough to be listed as an EC?</p>
<p>Weighing in late to say that I fully agree with Hmom5 and Entomom. Two years of science simply will not cut it at a top school for the unhooked applicant. (And not for the hooked, unless it's a whopping hook.) </p>
<p>"Comforting lies" says it all.</p>
<p>The reason we keep trying to counter them is not to be mean: it is to help kids avoid huge disappointment that is the result of poor decision-making and overblown expectation.</p>
<p>Wow, gotta say...this board got a little violent, but thanks for the advice everyone. I'm definitely looking into taking one or two supplemental lab sciences at a community college or online this summer.</p>