OOS Applicant, is it easier?

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<p>My best friend is applying to UC Berkeley and UCLA from NY from a high school where no one has ever gone to Berkeley or UCLA. I doubt anyone’s even tried. We think that because of the budget cut, the UCs will be accepting a LOT more OOSers, so she has an advantage. I’m not really sure how accurate this is.</p>

<p>Here are her stats:
She’s applying to letters (?) as undecided
SAT: 1260/1600, 1900/2400
SAT Subject Test: Math II: 610 Spanish: 700
GPA: ~4.0 with Berkeley’s GPA recalculation (weighted) and about a 3.8 unweighted
Course Rigor: AP US Junior Year (4) and AP Gov and College Level Spanish (not an AP though) Senior Year, and in a regular calculus course (not AP) and then all normal stuff
ECs:
Varsity soccer during Junior Year, and JV in sophomore and freshman year
President of French and Spanish Club (senior year)
National Honor Society
Polish Club
Chorus/Private Singing Lessons</p>

<p>She knows it is a reach, but would like to know if her chances are okay, because she is out of state and there is a definite advantage as an OOSer in today’s economy.</p>

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<p>It’s true that OOS can help kids get in, but it wont turn a reach into a match.
Her GPA and SAT scores are low for Berkeley and Los Angeles. Both are reaches, but she has a better chance at LA.</p>

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<p>Exactly the opposite; it’s harder. The UC’s are supposed to be for Californians (because they are supported by the tax dollars of Californians), so they get priority. Admissions data supports this.</p>

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<p>sndebrosse - with the budget cuts, the UCs are starting to take more OOS students. So, admissions data is irrelevant, because it is a new trend.
[UC</a> increases number of out-of-state and international students for the fall | L.A. NOW | Los Angeles Times](<a href=“Archive blogs”>Archive blogs)</p>

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<p>Yes, I’m aware of the changes due to the budget. What I said is still true. </p>

<p>You’ll notice that the article you posted is talking about admissions for Fall 2010. In other words, the admissions data are not irrelevant because they should already reflect the changes.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2010/fall_2010_admissions_table_7.pdf[/url]”>http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2010/fall_2010_admissions_table_7.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2010/10apptable1_2.pdf[/url]”>http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2010/10apptable1_2.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>For fall 2010, 111,387 California residents applied for admission and 58,777 were admitted ( for an admit rate of about 53%). 22,642 nonresidents applied and 9,552 were admitted (for an admit rate of about 42%). My guess is that this difference is statistically significant, though i don’t want to check. In any event, it’s definitely not easier to get in if you’re out of state.</p>

<p>Besides this, UC says throughout its website and admissions materials that it gives priority to residents.</p>

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<p>Scores and GPA are not competitive enough, but there’s possibly a chance if her personal statement is convincing and she seems interesting enough. </p>

<p>While it still is not easier for OOS applicants than it is for in-state residents, they have been accepting additional OOS applicants because of the budget cuts. That said, CA residents are still given priority.</p>

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<p>I don’ think this person will get in UCLA or UCB. But then again, one of my friends friend got into UCB with around a 4.0 GPA and 1500 in her SATs. But this person does have a great shot at the rest of the UC’s.</p>