<p>My english teacher did her's the night before, and she got into UCLA and Berkeley. But she was in state, but the point is that you can still do good essay even the night before, lol. Plus, UC essays are pretty easy cause they don't want so much creativity anywasy,</p>
<p>how old is your english teacher?</p>
<p>27 or 28 i think.</p>
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Don't apply to Cal. Seriously. It costs the same as the Ivies but brings little name-brand recognition and actually screws up your chances at getting into top programs.
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<p>Didn't you get into Columbia?</p>
<p>Yeah, grad placement is a little weak. Harvard, Yale, and Princeton are definitely better. Dartmouth...probably better. But I doubt she would pick Berkeley over these schools anyway. Berkeley vs. something like U Penn...I may be able to make an argument for that.</p>
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Yeah, grad placement is a little weak.
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<p>No no no. Berkeley's law, business, and med school placement is "a little weak." Placement for real grad school (where you get a PhD) is extremely strong.</p>
<p>Hi op, I'm an out of stater at Cal who is also from Texas. Feel free to PM me if you have more questions.</p>
<p>So well said shiboing. Could not agree with you more. </p>
<p>Getting back the point of this thread, you have gauranteed admission. I can't possibly see you getting rejected. While it is harder for out of staters to get in, seeing as he uC system is intended to be an outlet mostly for Cali kids, you will get in with those stats.</p>
<p>They realy do make it easier on us Cali kids though. For example, theres a program in state called ELC which gives you some special app to fill out (pre-created or something) if you are in the top 4% of your school. While the app just says you are ELC evaluated and is not special in any sense, its basically giving you extra "points" for having a high GPA from an instate school.</p>
<p>But getting back to the point, unless you are applying to other UC's, dont waste your time on Berkley. If it werent for UCLA and the fact that I'm from in state, there would be no reason for me to apply.</p>
<p>omg... why don't you just apply to the ivy leagues?
your list is sooo scary!! ^__^
In a good way of course!</p>
<p>What exactly do you mean when you say 'general medicine' and 'neurosurgery' internships? You may want to clarify when including these in your EC list because to me, the wording you use, 'neurosurgery internship,' signifies surgical residency after medical school, which I am going to safely assume you have not already undergone at this point.... This would serve as a more general application tip as well - you want to make things as obvious as possible for application reviewers so that they do not have to stretch themselves too much to interpret what you are trying to say. Simplify and never word activities or achievements as to over-inflate them or mislead the adcom. Substance is much more important than style when it comes to college apps.</p>
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No no no. Berkeley's law, business, and med school placement is "a little weak." Placement for real grad school (where you get a PhD) is extremely strong.
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<p>Actually, I don't know about that. I am not aware of any evidence that would indicate that Berkeley's PhD placement is significantly better than its professional school placement. </p>
<p>Take the career report of, say, the sociology grads. Look at which PhD programs they matriculated at. The 3 listed are Arizona, UCSC, and UCSB. That's not exactly the cream of the crop. </p>
<p><a href="http://career.berkeley.edu/Major/Soc.stm%5B/url%5D">http://career.berkeley.edu/Major/Soc.stm</a></p>
<p>Or take Chemical Engineering. While some placed into some top-notch PhD programs (i.e. MIT, Stanford, Minnesota - which is a top ChemE program), others got placed into UCDavis, RPI, or even Louisiana State University. While I don't want to insult anybody's choice of career (and certainly getting into the PhD program at LSU is better than not getting in anywhere at all), I don't know that going to LSU for a PhD is what most Berkeley chemical engineering students really want. </p>
<p>But go and check the PhD placement reports for the various majors yourself if you don't believe me. While I wouldn't go so far as to say that the placements are bad (and in fact, I suspect they are still better than the placements of any other UC), I don't see any reason to believe that the PhD placement is better than the professional school placement.</p>
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You pay 50,000 dollars for an Ivy, you pay half for Cal.
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<p>For OOS students? I don't know if I can agree with that. Seems to me that the cost is virtually the same, presuming no aid. </p>
<p>Don't get me wrong. There are compelling reasons for OOS students to choose Berkeley. I just don't think that cost is one of them.</p>
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They realy do make it easier on us Cali kids though. For example, theres a program in state called ELC which gives you some special app to fill out (pre-created or something) if you are in the top 4% of your school. While the app just says you are ELC evaluated and is not special in any sense, its basically giving you extra "points" for having a high GPA from an instate school.
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<p>It's not just about grades for Berkeley and LA though. That's why they admitted about 60% of ELC students last year. </p>
<p>The list isn't "pre-created" either which sucks...lol. It basically has your name on it. Wow...</p>