<p>"Campus officials laid out a range of potential tuition increases Monday but will wait two weeks before making a formal recommendation to the chancellor.</p>
<p>When the campus tuition and fee advisory task force convenes again Nov. 5, members will consider increases between $300 and $1,000 for all graduate students, and somewhere between $800 and $1,500 for nonresident undergraduates.</p>
<p>In keeping with a directive from UNC-system president Erskine Bowles, no increases for resident undergraduates were considered."</p>
<p>Links to discussions that reflect on the relationship between OSS and resident students (I thinks this would be especially helpful in addressing some earlier posters' concerns about this) with some other DTH editorials about the discriminatory tuition increase.</p>
<p>bump.
no one has anything to say about this slap in the face to OOS students?</p>
<p>i know that the majority of prospectives on this board are OOS. your perspective will change completely when you come here and actually have to face the uncertainty of paying 10 percent or more tuition hikes every year. just promise me that when you consider the price that you will realize that coming in the school will cost you more than 22000 a year in tuition and in your last year it will cost you 30K or more a year in tution- more than UVA, a higher ranked school which is easier to get into as an OOS student than UNC (and this is obviously contingent on the fact that UVA has more reasonable increases between now and then). Unfortunately, I no I didn't consider that tuition for OOS students would increase so heavily. UNC, although the cheapest of the top 5 public schools now, is quickly out pacing its peers. Prospectives, this will effect you more than it will me-you should ideally care more.</p>
<p>Yep....it is good to be from North Carolina. If you don't want to pay the price as an OOS then don't......quit your whining and go apply somewhere else. Nothing could be finer than to be from Carolina......:)</p>
<p>It is ridiculous....and it is NOT an ivy league education...it is supposed to be a public university education. Not all OOS students plan for such a huge increase every year and it just drives many of them to transfer or graduate early. THey should at least lock in tuition for 4 years when you enter for oss. </p>
<p>Certainly the chancellor's remarks over and over and over in today's daily tar heel does not equal throwing out the welcome mat either. No, on the contrary, UNC has made it very clear--they are there to serve residents of the state of NC period. The rest be damned. So don't waste time complaining......about tuition increases. They really don't care. If you go to Carolina, plan on a $1,500 increase at least every year. In other words your education will increase by $6,000 over 4 years. </p>
<p>Suggestions from Daily tar heel today by oss:
*Do as many semester abroads as you can bc you pay instate tuition for that.
*Bring in lots of AP credits
*Take summer courses at home
*anything you can just to graduate as soon as possible.
*forget about establishing residency, its impossible.</p>
<p>Okay...two different things going on here. Don't make the mistake of turning the tuition issue into a personal battle between in-states and oos. Those who are not at UNC (tarheelhopeful) don't even know how UNC students truly perceive the tuition issue. Every in-state friend my daughter has is so sympathetic and many have joined their oos friends at the early a.m. protests against hikes. In turn, the oos kids wear tongue-in-cheek humorous t-shirts that say things like 'oos student...keeping your in-state tuition low' or 'reclaiming my tuition hike one fork at a time'. Maintaining philosophical calm is pretty essential and thank goodness most real UNC students are smart enough to realize that.</p>
<p>This being said, UNC is a state school and most everything Atlmom says is essentially true. This school was chartered to serve the residents of North Carolina, just as UT-Austin is here to serve Texans and UCLA to serve Californians. I don't think, however, UNC 'damns' the oos kids at all. I think these students are valued for the diversity they bring to the school and if not for the NC Legislature, the University would bring even MORE of that diversity to their campus. </p>
<p>Reality is the tuition is incredibly low for oos students. And room and board in NC? Unbelievably cheap. In Texas, similar accommodations would cost twice as much. I would rather not part with more of my money...but honestly, we are still spending far less for a comparable education than we would at Cornell or Rice....and not that much more than state school here in Texas.</p>
<p>I think it's kind of ridiculous. I don't mind them raising tuition more for oos than for in-state, but to only raise oos tuition? Unfair in my opinion. (Don't say life isn't fair.)</p>
<p>if u OOS people can afford to pay $33,000 a year to go to UNC, obviously u can afford $1000 more. I know I'm luck that I'm in-state, but u chose to go to a OOS university and u knew it would cost more anyway.</p>
<p>^Please do not write like this in the admissions essay, or regardless of status, worrying about UNC tuition will not be a problem.</p>
<p>Also, many OOS students are paying for college with loans. Every additional dollar is painful to a young graduate struggling to make ends meet while paying off college debt. Oftentimes, the decision and ability to attend graduate school is negatively affected by undergraduate debt.</p>
<p>And I have to agree with haha. The tuition bump doesn't cause UNC to suddenly become a 'bad deal'. (And Kiplinger agrees once again. ;)) But in-state students should receive a proportionate bump as well.</p>
<p>I understand why OOS students would feel this tuition increase is unfair. I would like to point out, however, that OOS students are sometimes treated BETTER than instate ones from a tuition and fees standpoint. We are instate, and my daughter was offered a Carolina Scholars award, which for an instate student was worth $7500 per year. That's a very nice award, however, the Carolina Scholars award when offered to OOS students is a full ride. This situation left instate Carolina Scholars paying MORE than OOS ones. There are obviously not that many students affected by that disparity, but it still felt really unfair from the standpoint of an instate student whose parents had paid NC taxes for over 20 years.</p>
<p>Given that UNC-Chapel Hill only accepts something like 8% (is that correct?) OOS, will increasing their tuition make that much of a difference.?????...IMO, if they really want to raise more money, increase their OOS students who always pay more tuition than in-state....</p>
<p>Before everyone starts to create an issue for prospective students bear in mind as ldmom said that the in-state kids are more than sympathetic to the cause of OOS student tuition increases. What everyone has to remember is that UNC is there for the education of North Carolinians and that the residents/taxpayers of North Carolina really pay a disproportionate amount of their taxes for higher education when compared to most other states which explains why they get concerned when their students get hit annually with increases and as nceph said, the new scholarship system has actually worked against in state students.</p>
<p>UNC at whatever cost is still an incredible value when compared against its peers and most other state schools where the cost of tuition for OOSers is far higher.</p>
<p>Was it right/fair to solely increase the tuition of OOS students? Probably not. Have OOS students been assessed disproportionate increases over the past three years? Yes, and it has not gone unnoticed at all levels. At the rate of approximately $1000 a year in increases the total of $4000 for 4 years is just barely above what some private institutions are increasing on an annual basis.</p>
<p>UNC is still a great deal. For those considering UNC, if you are fortunate enough to be admitted...and I mean that sincerely, don't let the ranting of a few individuals color your perspective of a really fine school.</p>
<p>rodney</p>
<p>The percentage of OOS students enrolled is approx 18% so they accept a bit more than 8%</p>
<p>i think it's dumb that tuition levels are subject to change even after being admitted. I think once you're admitted, your tuition should be set and capped. Tuition for INCOMING freshman can change.
nceph that's a really good point</p>