<p>I'm in the middle of picking which professors I should take O-chem with and I have two choices: Cornish or Doubleday. The CULPA reviews for Cornish are intimidating and I'm not even sure if I'm allowed to take the F3443 course with Doubleday (Can someone clarify if this course will count as a pre-med requisite even though it's a General Studies course?).</p>
<p>The other alternative is to wait and hope that Colin Nuckolls' class will be open sometime around the first week of classes. It's filled with 150 students at the moment (max). Does anyone know if a course like that will be dropped by a couple of people so I can get in? Also, since I've never registered before, I don't know if the school has a waitlist for courses.</p>
<p>Thanks in advance, everyone.</p>
<p>EDIT: Another option would be to take O-chem at Barnard, but based on the class directory online, O-chem I isn't offered in the fall (either that or it's full). Does anyone know anything about O-chem I at Barnard?</p>
<p>Barnard orgo classes are divided over two years. Barnard pre-meds take the first semester of intro biology (I think, but it could be one of the other pre-med reqs) in the fall of one year, then the first semester of orgo in the spring of that year. Next year they take second semester bio and orgo. You are allowed to take orgo at Barnard, but you would have to split it up over two years.</p>
<p>If you are a columbia student, taking orgo (or bio) at barnard looks bad since both are easier and less competitive and the premed committee will surely ask you what was your reason for doing so....and "because Cornish looked hard" won't cut it. </p>
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<p>you are allowed to take this class...the F just means that it is a night class for GS students.....ironically enough, most GS pre-meds do not take the night class because they usually do not work while in the post-bac program. </p>
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<p>orgo is rough, and having the "easier" professor isn't a guaranteed good grade...the year i took orgo katz was the "easier" prof and i know people who put in alot of work and still did badly in that class. I would suggest just accepting your fate and taking cornish. Good thing about her class is you get to drop two of your midterm grades and her finals have historically been relatively easy compared to her midterms.</p>
<p>have to agree with shraf here. you MUST take culpa reviews with a grain of salt. her notes are really important and ought to be your focus. also, she repeats exam questions from previous years (so find a set of old exams!). i strongly recommend you buy yourself a supplementary orgo textbook--try "Organic Chemistry as a Second Language" (absolute lifesaver for me 2nd semester!)</p>
<p>you'll be set for orgo if you took it as a frosh, however it's unclear to me whether or not AP credits count (i'm assuming you had AP chem, otherwise you wouldn't have taken orgo as a frosh). please list what you've taken and we'll help.</p>
<p>sorry, i was unclear in that post. what i meant was, i've taken organic chemistry as a freshman, and i'm wondering what i should take next, given that i need two years of chemistry to satisfy the two year requirement.</p>
<p>i think your answer is...depends on the med school....some of them have no problem counting AP credit and others prefer that you take higher level courses. To be on the safe side however you should plan on taking two semesters of a higher level chemistry class like inorganic chemistry for instance however i would suggest that you email Megan Rigney or someone else in the premed office with that question....but before you do so, since i'm quite sure you aren't the first to come up with this question, you should check in the premed handbook and see if it's there:</p>
<p>Okay, for incoming frosh, would it be advisible to take the mid level track (Intensive General Chemistry)? I ask because I got a 4 on the AP Chem Test but am leaning towards the first track because it's only a 4 and that was over a year ago.</p>
<p>thanks for the info, shraf. the pre-med handbook doesn't really mention anything other than that 6 credits of AP will be awarded for gen chem for completion of organic as a freshman. right now i'm signed up for pchem, and i'll also speak to a premed advisor.</p>