OSU vs. Indiana Bloomington

College Search & Selection
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<p>Need help deciding which college to choose because they are so similar. I am only sending one application in the fall.</p>

<p>I'm still undecided on a major but I am definitely majoring in either business or political science with a minor in an East Asian language. Also, I'll be pre-law. </p>

<p>Indiana has a better business program and a law school which are major pros but OSU is known for political science and has a much lower tuition (I'll be out of state for both). Does anyone know any other pros and cons that can be attributed to either college?</p>

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<p>What are you likely to major in? If business, would you be a direct admit to either program? Which graduates the biggest percentage of students in your preferred program in four years? </p>

<p>Examine the required curriculums for your probable majors at each school side by side…which do you prefer?</p>

<p>Both universities have good business schools and good law schools. They have very different environments…IU is in a true college town, OSU is a large city, and not in a great neighborhood. </p>

<p>Does location matter to you? It might be easier to get to and from OSU if you need to fly.</p>

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<p>I think tOSU may have the better language programs as well. [The</a> Foreign Language Center](<a href=“http://flc.osu.edu/]The”>http://flc.osu.edu/)</p>

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<p>I would say that IU has a very good language program as well. </p>

<p>What are your SAT scores? Do you qualify for IU’s direct admission scholarships?</p>

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<p>I think IU is better for languages overall.</p>

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<p>It’s pretty much a toss-up for East Asian languages. OSU is the National Resource Center in East Asian languages. IU has a Chinese Flagship program. OSU used to participate in the Flagship program, but now seem to have its own similar program. IU has a strong reputation for its language programs in all languages. IU has the better business school. IU is fairly flexible about programs across schools, majors, minors, etc. In addition to good political science depts, both schools have good International Studies programs, though OSU’s iS major has a better structure imo.</p>

<p>IU has a great college town. OSU in a big city. Both are very large schools. IU has a beautiful campus. OSU has lots of new facilities. Haven’t spent enough time in Columbus to comment on the weather; Bloomington can be very humid in the spring and summer and often has a thick cloud cover in the winter (somewhat depressing). Several attractive natural areas near IU. OSU has better football; IU has better basketball. IU has a high degree of participation in individual sports—cycling, running, swimming, etc. Politically, Bloomington is a much more progressive place than Columbus, though the surrounding area of Southern Indiana is conservative. Bloomington is in driving distance of Indianapolis and Louisville, and there are daily shuttles to Chicago (about 4-4.5 hours away). Columbus is in driving distance of Cincinnati and Cleveland. IU has a very large number of international students, particularly from China. Indiana has a lower cost of living, though housing can be somewhat high for students.</p>

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<p>OSU is not much lower than Indiana in tuition. OSU is ~$26,000 while Indiana is ~31,000. OSU narrows the gap when you consider room & board/cost of living. In the end, attending Indiana will not be that much more expensive than attending OSU (probably around $10k over 4 years).</p>

<p>Academically, both schools are very good across the board. </p>

<p>I would recommend choosing the school you prefer.</p>

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<p>In this case, pick the one with the overall lower cost.</p>

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<ol>
<li><p>TOSU is ranked #55 (mid-tier Big Ten) via USNWR. Its overall reputation consistently perceived as higher than IU #75 (lower-tier Big Ten) in the eyes of academics, and the school is “Up-and-Coming” academically.</p></li>
<li><p>TOSU is located in Columbus, Ohio (Capital). Its Political Science is a solid Top-20 program (#17 rated ahead of Northwestern, Illinois & Texas) certainly better than IU; however Indiana’s undergrad business #12 is slightly better than tOSU’s Fisher #14 based on the latest edition of USNWR. </p></li>
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<p>U.S. Presidents from Ohio</p>

<ul>
<li>Ulysses Grant</li>
<li>Rutherford Hayes</li>
<li>James Garfield</li>
<li>Benjamin Harrison</li>
<li>William McKinley</li>
<li>William Taft</li>
<li>Warren Harding</li>
</ul>

<p>TOSU Student in the Statehouse</p>

<p>[“Buckeyes</a> in the Statehouse” - YouTube](<a href=“- YouTube”>- YouTube)</p>

<p>[Best</a> Political Science Programs | Top Political Science Schools | US News Best Graduate Schools](<a href=“http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-humanities-schools/political-science-rankings]Best”>http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-humanities-schools/political-science-rankings)</p>

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<li>TOSU operates an oversea global gateway office in Shanghai, China and its East Asian Studies Center is one of the very few schools in the nation which operates 3 institutions of studies for China, Japan & Korea, respectively. Above all, tOSU is one of the top colleges in the country with the most international student enrollment.<br></li>
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<p>[Office</a> of International Affairs - China Gateway](<a href=“http://oia.osu.edu/china.html]Office”>China Gateway | Office of International Affairs | The Ohio State University) </p>

<p>[Home</a> | The Ohio State University MidWest US-China Flagship Program](<a href=“http://chineseflagship.osu.edu/]Home”>http://chineseflagship.osu.edu/)</p>

<p>U.S. Institutions With the Most International Students, 2010-11</p>

<p>[Table:</a> U.S. Institutions With the Most International Students, 2010-11 - International - The Chronicle of Higher Education](<a href=“U. of Southern California Enrolled the Most International Students in 2009-10”>U. of Southern California Enrolled the Most International Students in 2009-10)</p>

<ol>
<li>TOSU is certainly better in terms of best bang for your buck as the school offers tremendous financial aids / merit scholarships. Check out National Buckeye Scholarship for the OOS students.</li>
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<p>[Scholarships[/url</a>]</p>

<ol>
<li>Although TOSU is located only 2 miles away from the vibrant Columbus downtown, the campus itself is isolated in a college town setting, so you get the best of both worlds with Short North Art District, German Village, Italian Village, Arena District nestled in between. Very diverse!!</li>
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<p>[url=&lt;a href=“http://www.youtube.com/user/ExperienceColumbus]ExperienceColumbus”&gt;Experience Columbus - YouTube]ExperienceColumbus</a> - YouTube](<a href=“Merit-based scholarships - The Ohio State University”>Merit-based scholarships - The Ohio State University)</p>

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<li><p>C-Powler’s report card rates Ohio State as one of the best colleges in the nation. The following areas of the schools are rated A-, A, A+ by the masses:</p>

<p>A-
Academics
A+
Athletics
A-
Campus Dining
A-
Campus Strictness
A
Facilities
A-
Girls
A-
Guys
A-
Local Atmosphere
A+
Nightlife
A+
Off-Campus Dining
A
** Transportation**</p></li>
<li><p>TOSU is currently under the helm of Gordon Gee - former President of Vanderbilt and Brown. </p></li>
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<p>[E</a>. Gordon Gee: The Big Man on Campus - The 10 Best College Presidents - TIME](<a href=“http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1937938_1937934_1937914,00.html]E”>http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1937938_1937934_1937914,00.html)</p>

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<li><p>TOSU is not only one of the most spirited colleges in the nation, its basketball and football programs are also top in the nation.</p></li>
<li><p>Freshman admission selectivity: 50% ACT 27-31</p></li>
<li><p>The school is also a Top-10 research institution based on expenditures.</p></li>
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<p>The list goes on and on…</p>

<p>Best of Luck & Go Bucks!! :)</p>

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<p>I would choose Indiana. Better overall college experience and basketball is going to be awesome.</p>

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<p>Personally I don’t understand why you are only applying to one. Why not apply to both and then see what kind of scholarship money is available - go to the “admitted student” days and then decide. It’s only 2 applications.</p>

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<p>“Indeed,” says IU’s legendary coach Bob Knight of tOSU!! :p</p>

<p>[OSU</a> Basketball: A Carrier Classic double-dip? | The Columbus Dispatch](<a href=“http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/sports/2012/05/25/a-carrier-classic-double-dip.html]OSU”>http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/sports/2012/05/25/a-carrier-classic-double-dip.html)</p>

<p>Go Bucks!! :)</p>

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<p>Ohio State the business programs are very close in terms of “rankings” </p>

<p>Poly Sci goes to OSU by a landslide especially since it is located in Columbus</p>

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<p>I would say it evens itself out because IU has a far better public policy school in SPEA if you want an applied approach to poli sci. OSU only just created an undergrad program in policy and IU has had one for decades. These programs don’t get ranked at the undergrad level but the grad program is #2 in the country and if you are an excellent student you can do the 3/2 accelerated masters program. </p>

<p>I’m also with the others here – both applications are not that rigorous, so I’d recommend applying to both schools.</p>

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<p>Location, location, location!!! :)</p>

<p>Just two miles down the road from the Ohio Statehouse, Ohio State has long been a training ground for elected officials on both sides of the aisle. Students hone their political chops and leadership skills through Undergraduate Student Government, internship opportunities, and academic study, and often begin their political careers in the Buckeye State after graduation.</p>

<p>Governor John Kasich got his start at Ohio State, as did Senators Sherrod Brown and Thomas Carper. Here’s the current list of Ohio State alumni working in elected office.</p>

<p>2011 Ohio State Alumni in Elected Office</p>

<p>UNITED STATES SENATE (112th Congress)</p>

<pre><code>Sherrod Brown (D-OH)
Thomas R. Carper (D-DE)
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<p>UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES (112th Congress)</p>

<pre><code>Marcia Fudge (D-Warrensville Heights), Ohio’s 11th Congressional District
Bob Gibbs (R-Lakeville), Ohio’s 18th Congressional District
Jim Jordan (R-Urbana), Ohio’s 4th Congressional District
Steve Stivers (R-Columbus), Ohio’s 15th Congressional District
Pat Tiberi (R-Columbus), Ohio’s 12th Congressional District
</code></pre>

<p>STATEWIDE OFFICE HOLDERS</p>

<pre><code>John Kasich (R), Governor
David Yost (R), Auditor of State
Josh Mandel (R), Treasurer of State
</code></pre>

<p>OHIO SENATE LEADERSHIP (129th General Assembly)</p>

<pre><code>President - Tom Niehaus (R-New Richmond), 14th Senate District
President Pro Tempore - Keith Faber (R-Celina), 12th Senate District
Assistant Minority Whip - Jason Wilson (D-Columbiana), 30th Senate District
</code></pre>

<p>OHIO SENATE (129th General Assembly)</p>

<pre><code>Karen Gillmor (R-Tiffin), 26th Senate District
Jim Hughes (R-Columbus), 16th Senate District
Kris Jordan (R-Powell), 19th Senate District
Frank LaRose (R-Fairlawn), 27th Senate District
Charleta Tavares (D-Columbus), 15th Senate District (Attended)
Mark Wagoner (R-Toledo), 2nd Senate District
</code></pre>

<p>OHIO HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES LEADERSHIP (129th General Assembly)</p>

<pre><code>Bill Batchelder (R), HD 69 Medina, Speaker of the House
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<p>OHIO HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES (129th General Assembly)</p>

<pre><code>Richard Adams (R-Troy), House District 79
Troy Balderson (R-Zanesville), House District 94 (Attended)
Andrew Brenner (R-Powell), House District 2
John Carney (D-Columbus), House District 22
Kathleen Clyde (D-Kent), House District 68
Mike Duffey (R-Worthington), House District 21 (Attended)
Bill Hayes (R-Grandville), House District 91
Clayton Luckie (D-Dayton), House District 39
Todd McKenney (R-Akron), House District 43
Bob Peterson (R-Sabina), House District 85
Dan Ramos (D-Lorain), House District 56
Stephen Slesnick (D-Canton), House District 52
Peter Stautberg (R-Cincinnati), House District 34
Gerald Stebelton (R-Lancaster), House District 5
Michael Stinziano (D-Columbus), House District 25
</code></pre>

<p>As an undergraduate, political science major Brittany Warner interned for Speaker of the House Bill Batchelder (also a Buckeye alum). When she graduates this spring, she’ll join the ranks of other Ohio State alums working in state government.</p>

<p>[“Buckeyes</a> in the Statehouse” - Do Something Great - The Ohio State University](<a href=“http://www.osu.edu/features/2011/statehouse]"Buckeyes”>http://www.osu.edu/features/2011/statehouse)</p>

<p>Columbus, Ohio (The Capital) over Bloomington, Indiana, period. Go Bucks!! lol</p>

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<p>It would depend on whether or not he qualifies for the National Buckeye Scholarship</p>

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<p>^^

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<p>Great minds think alike!! :p</p>

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<p>Overall, IU is the better school traditionally. OSU is the up-and-comer.</p>

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<p>^^ I can’t seem to recall the last time when IU was ranked academically higher than tOSU… =.="</p>

<p>Overall Ranking 1910</p>

<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Chicago</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>Johns Hopkins</li>
<li>Wisconsin</li>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>Michigan</li>
<li>California</li>
<li>Carnegie Institute</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>Illinois</li>
<li>Pennsylvania</li>
<li>Missouri</li>
<li>Minnesota
18. Ohio State</li>
<li>New York</li>
<li>Clark
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Overall Ranking 1925**</li>
</ol>

<p>1) University of Chicago
2) Harvard
3) Columbia
4) Yale
5) Wisconsin
6) Princeton
7) Johns Hopkins
8) Michigan
9) California (Berkeley)
10) Cornell
11) Illinois
12) Pennsylvania
13) Minnesota
14) Stanford
15) Ohio State
16) Iowa
17) Bryn Mawr
18) Caltech
19) MIT
20) Northwestern</p>

<p>*Current Ranking (USNWR): tOSU #55 vs IUB #75</p>

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<p>OHIO STATE. i’m in the same boat doing business (marketing) and political science in a double major. while both schools have great programs for both, i’m a buckeye through and through.</p>