<p>ZeppRock.</p>
<p>Ever consider a career in public relations?</p>
<p>Heard 'Nova's got a terrific program.</p>
<p>I'm going because I'm living in West Village F for the first year. During this time, I will destroy academically and get into a much better school. The whole "Honors Program Experience" is really annoying. "Enhancing Honors Class?" Seriously, just let me take the honors classes and get out. Team building ropes course and community service are not things I'm looking forward to, especially after doing it for 4 years in High School. So in short, RatedPG, I'm going because of West Village F, one of the few good things to come from NEU.</p>
<p>Zepp, I don't know much of your background and what other schools you applied to and were accepted to. I doubt you decided on NEu just because of WVF.</p>
<p>You don't sound like the type of student that belongs in the NEU honors program.</p>
<p>It was between Northeastern and Villanova. As you said in an earlier post or forum, NEU is starting to rise in the ranks . They do this by offering kids in the Honors Program West Village F. When I needed to make my decision, I saw I would be getting a very nice suite, so I chose NEU. I fell into their trap. You would be misinformed if you chose NEU over Villanova for any other reason. If I don't seem like the type of student who should be in the Honors Program, you should see some of the other kids...</p>
<p>I don't know anyone who chooses a school based on housing.</p>
<p>nuff said</p>
<p>Why do you all think NEU is the greatest school in the world anyway? I don't see anything special about it. Why is NEU so much better than Cornell?</p>
<p>No one said NEU is better than Cornell. Cornell obviously is a highly ranked ivy leage school. </p>
<p>I'm sorry you are not happy with NEU and I hope you can successfully transfer to a school that is not so inferior.</p>
<p>Let me rephrease then, why were you "won over" by NEU?</p>
<p>Everyone has a certain "fit" school. The factors include academics, location, culture, finances, rank to some extent, and there are many more. </p>
<p>I'm just wondering why a new student would be so negative on their school</p>
<p>Yea, thats getting me really excited. I can't wait to have this awful book signed and listen to this guy ramble. I'm also looking forward to helping out the community. Sounds like the fun I signed up for at NEU. I don't see the point of having a separate Honors Program orientation after I've already had one. Little things like these make me loath attending NEU.</p>
<p>And grads from NEU MIGHT be better off when applying for a job right out of college, but what about when applying to graduate school? Anything but a PhD is worthless in science and engineering.</p>
<p>i like zepp's school spirit, anyone else agree?</p>
<p>Why be in the honors program then, if the activities are making you miserable. And as far as grad school, you don't have to go to a top fifty to get into an excellent grad program. NEU grads go to Harvard, MIT and Caltech. </p>
<p>A college education is what you make of it, not the name of the school you graduate from. And based on your attitude, I can predict what you will be making of your NEU education.</p>
<p>You may not have to go to a top 50 to get into an excellent grad school, but it definitely helps. I'm pretty sure more kids from MIT undergrad get into Stanford, Caltech, or Harvard than kids from NEU. As much as people say college "is what you make of it" (RatedPG, nice cliche), the name, rank, and prestige of an undergrad school definitely help a lot when applying for grad school and jobs.</p>
<p>I agree that college is what you make of it even though it may sound cliche. Zepp, you seem to think that school rank is everything. You should read posts outside the Northeastern Forum.</p>
<p>Zepp,</p>
<p>Just spent the weekend packing daughter for move in to WVF on Wednesday. She is looking forward to the author book signing, community service, and honors orientation. </p>
<p>I hope you have a great year at NEU, one that will help you transfer to that "better " school that you feel you need.</p>
<p>I know this has been posted before on this site, but I feel it belongs here too:</p>
<p>Kids make dumb decisions at all colleges, that story really doesn't help your case Zepp. These two idiots just happened to get caught, whereas thousands of kids at other schools do the same thing but fly under the radar.</p>
<p>And is your point that kids from MIT, Caltech, Stanford, Villanova or wherever don't use drugs or alchohol? If so, that is consistent with your previous posts...... narrow minded and "cliched". You really need to work on those transfer applications.........</p>
<p>%$@! happens at every school, and college IS what you make of it.</p>
<p>I agree justie and I believe it is a credit to Northeastern that they were "on this situation".. the kids are gone, anyone else who attempts similar acts will be gone. Not so at many other large institutions.</p>
<p>Zepp writes:
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You may not have to go to a top 50 to get into an excellent grad school, but it definitely helps. I'm pretty sure more kids from MIT undergrad get into Stanford, Caltech, or Harvard than kids from NEU.
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<p>This is most definitely not true [bold]in general[/bold]. Admission to a top graduate school in science and engineering is largely a "numbers" affair --- score very high in the GREs, get involved early in research as undergrad, and nobody will pay attention to the school you graduated from. Furthermore, the US News rankings actually better reflect the research prowess of a university than the quality of the undergraduate education it offers. There are plenty of graduates from Reed or Evergreen State College that have gone on to top graduate programs. In fact, I believe that, as a percentage of the student body, more Reed students get Ph.Ds than any other US institution.</p>
<p>The name on your diploma matters for only one thing - the very first job offer you receive. It is a sad truth that employers pay undue attention to the name of the diploma, but this is done largely from laziness. I work for a very large technology company, and yes, when hiring we give preference to certain schools. However, this is done not because we believe that they produce much better employees, but because we have had decent success with their graduates as employees, and we are too lazy to read the tens of thousands of resumes that land on our desks.</p>
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Finally, some personal history on the theme "school is what you make of it". I received my science Ph.D. from one of the schools in the very same "96" slot that NEU sits in. I managed to distinguish myself as one of the best students they had in a while --- not a very high standard, I know, but bear with me... I had a glowing recommendations from the professors I worked with, and had a few job offers when I graduated. I did not like any of them particularly well, so I took a HUGE pay cut to do a postdoc for a while. After two years, I got hired by my current company, one of the leading semiconductor companies in the world, that give a VERY strong preference to graduates from top engineering programs. At the time of the phone interview I understood the reason why they had called me - they had misread my cover letter and had formed the wrong impression about my skillset. Nevertheless, I must have done something right during the phone interview because they invited me for an onsite interview and eventually hired me. My typical co-worker has an engineering/science PhD from UIUC, Stanford, MIT, Caltech, Northwester, some are from Yale and Harvard. Nevertheless, over the past 10 years I have been promoted at 2x the rate of the "typical" employee, and am quite far ahead, administratively and financially, from the vast majority of engineers with a similar tenure at the company. The moral of the story - SCHOOL IS WHAT YOU MAKE OF IT. My personal history is proof of that, and there is no doubt in my mind that this is a true statement.</p>
<p>It is sad to see someone like you, going to college with such complete lack of desire. I hope that this motivates you to bust your a*s academically for the next year or two, and transfer to your dream school. Somewhere along the way, you will understand that personal and professional success has a lot to do with attitude - not having what you want, but wanting what you have. Until you realize that, you are bound to be unhappy no matter where you are.</p>
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