Parents of the HS Class of 2014

<p>I’m pretty sure they can only take 2 in a day as well.</p>

<p>They can take up to 3…</p>

<p>You can take 3 but people say that isn’t ideal. Also, I suggest that your student not take the SATII for a class unless they have tried some practice tests and/or are taking the AP class, even if their grades are high. I made the mistake of having kids take these early in high school and they were unprepared for the competition. They were embarrassed to have to submit those scores to the “all scores schools”. They have a much tougher curve than the SAT because few students take them.</p>

<p>On the SAT2s, they can take three.
It is worth it since they have to set aside that morning.
The tests are short.
Then your student can submit the two best scores.</p>

<p>I’m about 5pages behind! :eek:</p>

<p>Yes, fog is correct they can take three SAT2s at one sitting, but they can take less. </p>

<p>Fog, I am trying to remember, can they use score choice to selectively send only 2 tests if they take 3 in a sitting? I always remember kids panicking and asking if they should cancel scores because they think they did horribly. S3 has an excellent score ready to go from last spring so really only needs one more, but it’s silly not to try subject tests in courses he stands a chance to do well in, kwim? For example, if he takes two and ends up with one in the 700 range and another in the 600 range it would be strategically better to just send the one in the 700 range and the one from last year. Of course we’d hope he’ll hit 700+ on all, but it doesn’t always go that way. ;)</p>

<p>Also, not every subject is offered on every test date. For instance, World History is not offered in May, but it is in June. I had posted links a while back. I’ll try to grab them and post again. They are good for strategic planning. </p>

<p>Here we go: <a href=“The SAT – SAT Suite | College Board”>The SAT – SAT Suite | College Board;

<p>I do not believe they’ve released the fall 2013 test date schedule yet.</p>

<p>A friend of mine who has two kids in college suggested just taking the two SAT II subject tests you feel the most confident in at a time because of schools that require all scores. Then if the kids bombed the third one you can just cancel the scores. Made sense to me.</p>

<p>I have so many questions --</p>

<p>Spykid is now signed up for the March SAT & April ACT. Should she use the 4 free test sends (for a lack of a better word)? What if her scores are lackluster?</p>

<p>How many SAT II tests should a student take?
Spykid only has one AP class – APUSH. Her others are honors, should she take the SATII in Chem & Math anyway?</p>

<p>Ordinary – my car looks very similar to yours, crammed full of gear, umbrellas, an easy up, but somehow always missing the one vital piece of gear the kids need.</p>

<p>I’m seriously concerned about how DS’17 will stay fed in college. He’s just 13 but already consumes frightening amounts of food. Our college tours with DD have all been interspersed with tours of restaurants. He eats like a hobbit.</p>

<p>We sent one free score report – to the safety. The rest we’ll wait on. </p>

<p>And the two things I should have had yesterday but didn’t? Shovel and kitty litter (or ice melt).</p>

<p>Agent99–this may not be reliable but it’s a start. Be sure to check school by school to see if subject tests are required. [Compass:</a> Admissions Requirements](<a href=“SAT Subject Test Requirements and Recommendations - Compass Education Group”>SAT Subject Test Requirements and Recommendations - Compass Education Group)</p>

<p>Many of the most competitive schools may not ask for them but they will consider them. So consider it a “bump” in your student’s total admissions package.There are plenty of study guides available at the bookstore (Barnes & Noble has a huge selection) so your daughter may want to peruse them and see if she’s deep enough in the course material to do well on the subject test. </p>

<p>Our school told us that DD should not take the Chemistry subject test after Honors Chem but to wait after she had AP under her belt. Every school is different though in the amount of material they cover in the course of a semester/year. You may want to contact her teacher and find out whether or not he/she thinks she’s been exposed to enough material to do well on the test.</p>

<p>Ah…ordinary lives. Ice is the worst. Because we’re in a temperate area compared to yours, we don’t get it too often. On those days, I take our winter car equipped with studs. But then we have to transfer all of the stuff. </p>

<p>My winter box is filled with: Feet and hand warmers, gloves, hats, scarves, dry top & pants, fleece blankets, thermal blanket, water, protein bars, sunscreen. We also have the giant umbrella, chairs, stadium seat, and because it’s Oregon – rain boots. I usually have a fleece coat and a goretex in there too. My family loves to make fun, until they need something :)</p>

<p>I don’t send any test scores before we see them. Especially the ACT since some schools don’t superscore them, and you can’t even pay to have it superscored. So you’re better off sending the best score to the schools that don’t - d’s top choice doesn’t. Which is a bummer cause her writing score was really good and I thought - awesome, she doesn’t have to do the writing part anymore. </p>

<p>The SAT does superscore, but if they don’t do well on it the first time and do much better the second - I’d only send the second score.</p>

<p>The only time we ever sent free reports were to a couple of safety’s to get on their radar early. Otherwise we never sent scores blindly. </p>

<p>^Yes, it’s good to check prospective schools for their requirements and reporting policies. Most use score choice, a few single highest sitting, and a few send us everything you’ve ever taken…ever. Most schools do not require the subject tests but many will consider ever if they don’t require. Georgetown used to require three but I think they only require two now, which is the norm for schools that require them. The exception to this would be homeschoolers or students at unaccredited schools, who are often asked for a number of subject tests. I would agree about the Chem subject test. Our kids were discouraged from taking it after honors and told to wait until after AP Chem. It is one of the harder tests. Definitely check with the teacher.</p>

<p>Georgetown still requires 3 SAT subject tests.</p>

<p>From their website:</p>

<p>Test Requirements</p>

<p>Georgetown Policy on Score Choice
SAT - Georgetown’s SAT code is 5244. Georgetown only considers the critical reading and math portions of the SAT, not the writing section. If an applicant takes the SAT more than once, the admissions committees will consider the highest critical reading score and the highest math score from multiple test sessions when reviewing the application.
ACT - Georgetown’s ACT code is 0668. Georgetown accepts the ACT in lieu of the SAT. Applicants who take the ACT more than once will have their highest composite score considered in the evaluation process. The optional writing section on the ACT is not required, nor is the writing subscore used in the application review process.
SAT Subject Tests - It is strongly recommended that all candidates, whether they have taken the SAT Reasoning Test or the ACT, submit three SAT Subject Tests scores. The scores from writing portion on the SAT Reasoning Test and the optional writing portion of the ACT will not be used in place of a Subject Test.</p>

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<p>*Notice to Early Action Applicants:
Given the Early Action deadline of November 1, the Committee on Admissions recognizes that applicants may not be able to meet the SAT Subject Test requirements. Those candidates are welcome to submit an Early Action application, and the application will be considered complete and reviewed in its entirety. Candidates applying under the Early Action plan who have not yet taken three Subject Tests should still register to take the tests in the event they are deferred from Early Action to Regular Decision. If there are extenuating circumstances which prevent an applicant from submitting three SAT Subject Test scores, the applicant should provide a written explanation to the Committee on Admissions to be included with the application.</p>

<p>Agent99 - that sounds like an awesome box!! :)</p>

<p>Also, some school will accept the ACT plus writing instead of SAT IIs. Chemistry was the one that embarrassed my D ;)</p>

<p>Thanks all for the advice, everyone and for the link Go2mom. I think it’s best to wait until we see how she does. We’ll pay the fee to send them if they’re great. </p>

<p>Unfortunately, DD won’t be taking her AP Chem class until next year. Students are not allowed to take AP until they’ve taken honors first. She’ll be out of honors classes next year so will most likely have a full slate of APs. </p>

<p>What’s the difference between Math 1 & Math 2? What kind of math is this?</p>

<p>D14 ruled out any schools that require the SATII’s. Guess you have to start cutting the list somewhere!</p>

<p>Agent99–I copied the following from elsewhere on CC–probably from the SAT section, but I didn’t copy over the URL. (I did not write this so cannot vouch for its accuracy.)</p>

<p>And some commentary on SAT I Math vs. the Math II Subject Test: SAT I Math tests ridiculously basic skills like fractions, geometry, and algebra. Honestly, by the time you’re in 9th or 10th grade, you’ve learned everything you need for the Math sections of the SAT. But once again, since the SAT is a standardized test, the questions are deliberately designed to trick you and throw you off. And once again, having a natural aptitude or liking for math will help you score a little higher than others might, because that natural ability means you’ll understand the questions a little faster (same for Lit). Practice is the key to scoring better and recognizing little mistakes like not reading the question correctly or rushing through your work.</p>

<p>On the other hand, the Math II Subject Test provides thorough coverage of a Precalculus course and it even throws in one or two questions about limits. So if you’re not in Precal right now, then Math II is a bad idea, because there will be a lot of material that you’ve never seen before. SAT Math is about skills you’ve already learned, while Math II makes sure that you have a thorough understanding of new material that you have to study in Precal. And natural ability will be a huge help for scoring higher on Math II. I know a student who took an accelerated math track (9th gr: Algebra II with Trig; 10th gr: Precal; 11th gr: AP Calculus) and she still struggled on the Math II test.</p>

<p>Here’s a long (though not at all comprehensive) list of schools and what they require: SAT, ACT, Score Choice, Superscoring, Subj Tests (and how many), whether or not they take the Common Application, as well as dates for EA, ED1, ED2, RD. I thought someone on this thread posted this some time ago, but it could be that I found it on another thread. </p>

<p>According to this list, Hamilton, Middlebury and Colby College all require 3 subject tests if they are being sent in lieu of the SAT or ACT. And like go2mom said, Georgetown strongly recommends 3 and the SAT or ACT with writing.</p>

<p><a href=“http://prepmatters.com/sites/default/files/TopColleges-2013Entry.pdf[/url]”>http://prepmatters.com/sites/default/files/TopColleges-2013Entry.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>The Math1 has a much harsher curve then Math2, which is much more forgiving. If you know the material on the Math2 the biggest issue most kids have is time. They don’t finish and loose points for questions left blank, so speed is a consideration.</p>