Yes, basing a ranking upon the # of people getting jobs in Silicon Valley is rather misleading. What types of jobs? How many of the graduates got jobs? What was the average pay of grads at those companies?
It accounts for the number of graduates, pay and % in computer science/engineering positions. You could take out the ones that graduate less than 100 (Wellesley and Mount Holyoke).
A list that shows U of Phoenix higher than UCLA, USC, Rice and Michigan. The Ivy list doesn’t include Purdue so I’d want to dig into that further because it’s well known for its prowess in the field.
@sushiritto Definitely agree. They’re amazing at preventative, but I think in the last 5 years, they’ve gotten a lot better with the out of the ordinary issues. I think they’ve really leveled up on the specialists they have hired.
I agree that this is true everywhere, but Cornell has a particular reputation for being a huge pain in the rear about it. It’s tough to get out of, and some people get their waiver denied every year. Then they win the appeal, but the next year denied again and have to do it all over. I think it is because the local health system doesn’t play nice with most insurance companies, so if you aren’t using something specific you can really get hammered if you go to the hospital there. I’m a but fuzzy on the details, but it seems like there is more complaining at Cornell than most places.
Hate to bore you with some law school admission stuff but the process is such a different world than college admission I thought I would share this story.
D18 has spring break in March so we decided to take a trip to 2 schools she had been admitted to, ASU and UMinn. So I booked airfare for her from Greenville SC and for me from Pittsburgh with a multi city trip to Phoenix and Minneapolis. In the mean time she reaches out to Admission at ASU about a meeting with the admissions office and maybe some current students. AO get back to her and says. "if you are comfortable with eating in a restaurant some current students will take you to lunch in downtown Phoenix. If not we will have lunch brought into so you can talk to the current students.
And here’s the kicker. The AO says you will need to provide proof of payment of your airline ticket and hotel bill up to $500. Who knew. Of course they will only reimburse a round trip ticket which she did not get since we are also going to Minn in the same trip. But we will get $135 per night of the hotel bill reimbursed. It is such a different process.
Yes agree, unfortunately we don’t get to choose to opt out. There you have to apply to opt out and they’re the final judge and jury of whether you meet the school requirements as far as opting out. Every summer it is quite an ugly sight to see many unhappy families who now realize they have to pay an additional 3k+ to have an additional insurance plan for their kids. I would be pretty upset myself. For those of us who meet the requirements, we still have to pay for the university health center per semester which is a few hundred dollars each semester. Then if your kid goes there, they charge you an additional amount.
Problem with this list, as I mentioned in another forum is that CS is completely different than CE and this combines both of them. You just can’t equate the two. To major in CE at UT you need to major in ECE. CS there is in the College of Natural Sciences. Etc. Etc.
The only problem that I see with the list is that the tuition, room and board appears to be using OOS student prices for at least some of the publics, such as Cal, UCLA, Michigan, UC Davis, SLO, SJSU, etc.
It has to do with the type of insurance people have and their out of network coverage as well as the maximum coverages. Also, many parents forget to fill out the waiver every year, and/or they just expect their kids to get their own insurance and not keep them on their own, which I just don’t get since you can keep your kid on your insurance until you’re 26. We have never had a problem, but we’re pretty on top of it but many kids and parents just aren’t and quite frankly, most 18 year olds and even 22 year olds, just don’t understand how insurance works. They seem to think once their kid turns 18 that’s it, adult in their eyes, because of an arbitrary number (18) so suddenly they are able to do all things adult! Smh. Including, signing leases without having them reviewed by an attorney or even an adult. Then have lots of issues. Can’t quite figure it out.
That’s pretty great. I’m not entirely surprised about ASU though. D18 was invited to campus prior to applying for undergrad and they offered to reimburse her flight, but we declined since we made it a stop on a road trip. When we pulled up they had a prime parking spot marked with her name on it directly in front of the honor dorm entrance. I was a fan especially since there was a heat warning and the heels of my shoes practically melted into the pavement
My kids’ schools send email reminders about the insurance waiver and for us, it was a no brainer to keep our kids on ours. Removing them from our plan does not reduce our premium so for us, it does not make sense to pay for the college plan. But as mentioned before, we are fortunate our insurance covers us nationwide at in-network doctors and we were given waivers by the schools.
I do recall a couple of years ago a CC parent found out kind of late in the process that she had to buy the college plan for her D but she had absolutely no money available to pay for it. It was a long thread with people trying to help her figure out what options she had. I think she was considering having to go to a different school last minute b/c she could not afford the health insurance. I don’t recall all the details now, but it was really awful to see the mom working all angles to remedy the situation. I can’t remember the end result (am I imagining, or did some CC angel end up anonymously taking care of the costs?).
It really is a good reminder for parents that this requirement and whether you are able to opt out or not, is something to consider, especially for those where finances are extremely tight.
Jumping in after taking a break. RE: insurance coverage – I was able to waive the school-imposed coverage by using my employer’s insurance for D16. However, I was not able to waive the student health fee (which was some $600 annually, and covered the cost of student health services at her college). Be aware that some of your schools may have a student health services fee, in addition to the health insurance coverage requirement.
sorry for switching gears but is anyone watching some of the schools on their kid’s list and getting pretty dismayed as to how they are handling Covid? I’m not liking what I’m seeing. I feel like there’s not enough testing going on at some of D’s schools, big spikes, kids going home to quarantine instead of to quarantine on campus, bad food being brought to those kids in isolation…I don’t know what to think. I’m afraid it’s going to be hard to judge a school since this year is not normal and I’m not sure how much we should be taking this into account. On one hand, I’m hoping Covid won’t be as much of an issue, at least by second semester next year. On the other, how a school is handling Covid is indicative of how they treat their students overall, no?
Not just the school’s but the students themselves. After applying, a couple of schools have fallen off because of how their state and school was handling things, plus numbers of cases at school. If a school didn’t test their kids prior to arrival or at arrival this semester, what were they thinking???
Not that D21 applied, but kids at UNC this weekend should be ashamed of themselves. You got sent home last semester, so after you beat Duke in basketball, you go out and mob Franklin St??? You aren’t even ranked and neither is Duke- so stupid.
On top of this- those who got Covid during the summer and early fall can now get reinfected. So no one is really immune at these schools.
yeah. It’s depressing to hear about how some students are acting and how some schools just are not handling this well. I can’t say any school has fallen off D’s list yet but I’m very concerned about some of them. There aren’t perfect answers but not testing enough at schools that have big endowments is very disappointing.
My nephew in CA is also waiting for a decision from SLO for CS. I’m a CPSLO alum and would be so excited for him to go there. It’s a really wonderful place and I’m glad it’s getting more recognition for that now. I turned down Berkeley to go there back in the late 80s and got a lot of crap from classmates about turning down a UC to go to a Cal State. Glad I went with the right fit
here’s our emergencies with our two kids in college this year: phone crashed and died. Can’t log into online classes without push notifications or get into dorm building without phone access. Needed to get a new phone immediately. THEN, new computer’s screen broke; 6 week fix time. Had to get a new computer cuz all classes were online – those were our emergencies this past year.
You can look up any college’s Covid dashboard and messages to the students and updates are all over social media etc. I don’t think all schools are “doing their best”.
Edited to add - we are also hearing from people we know. And it’s not good.
THEN, new computer’s screen broke; 6 week fix time. Had to get a new computer cuz all classes were online – those were our emergencies this past year.