I agree. At most schools, a deferral is very likely going to convert into a waitlist or RD rejection. So it would be better if schools just accepted/rejected students in the early round so they could move on.
Actually, that is not true. What they’ve done is made the process to transfer into CS significantly more difficult. Currently, the bar to transfer in was so low as to be virtually non existent.
A parent I know also said they mentioned in their info session that they’re actually going to slightly increase the number of direct CS admits.
UMD has a ton of money and a brand new engineering building, and state of the art facilities. So I don’t think engineering students there have any shortage of resources.
“Actually, that is not true. What they’ve done is made the process to transfer into CS significantly more difficult. Currently, the bar to transfer in was so low as to be virtually non existent.”
You are correct and my understanding is that the number of transfer spots will be reduced by 90% (I believe they had 1000 and that is going to 100) and consequently reducing the size of the overall program. I found it to be interesting when it seems like every top stats kid is applying for CS or other STEM majors irrespective of it being at top privates or flagship publics. My take away is this leaves a nice path way for non STEM high stats kids.
I get this same impression! I am so curious where she will end up. It seems like if the LACs were a little closer/more familiar and a friend was also going, it would be an easy decision for her.
Update on D24: the last of the EA materials got submitted last night, with 10 whopping minutes to spare. Out of the 8900 words of essays she’s had to write so far, about 2500 of them were written on Tuesday and Wednesday.
NC resident, applied to architecture everywhere
Rolling
Kent State (accepted)
BGSU (accepted)
Early action applications
UNC Charlotte
Virginia Tech
NC State
Georgia Tech
Miami U (OH)
Northeastern
We each have a sticky note with our guesses as to where she gets in vs. not Several of these programs only take 30 or so architecture students, so probably sub 10% acceptance rate. She is happy with her portfolio (the work she has done on it over the last few months really shows) and everything else (ACT/GPA/rank/EC, etc.) is what it is at this point.
Up next for her: more honors college applications to finish and applications to a couple more places regular decision.
Looking for some advice. My D24 applied to 3 EAs and her ED by the deadlines. However, her predicted grades for IBDP were not submitted by her counselor until after those deadlines. Should D24 contact those schools to alert admissions that her PGs were submitted late? (Her PGs reflect a significant improvement over her Year 1 IBDP scores, as she experienced an extended illness during her junior year.) Thanks for your help!
So what I know is our school is on a trimester system, our first grades come out the end of November, they are automatically submitted by our counselors to early schools where the kids have already applied, and our counselors say they will be considered by the schools without the kids having to do anything.
I cannot say for sure it works the same for IB predicted grades, because we are not an IB school, but I suspect it does. Still, if she wanted more comfort she could reach out to one to ask.
My D21 thought she wanted to be in BS nursing. So her applications were all to direct admit nursing programs where she could get good merit. Was accepted at 10 or 11 school some with very good merit others with none. She ended up at Miami of Ohio who gave her what amounted to a full OOS tuition scholarship.
In October of her freshman year she said she wanted to switch to Mechanical Engineering. In March of freshman year she said she really loved math and switched to Data Science and Statistics. She has done great is I working on getting an internship this summer.
It is hard for a kid to know at 17 what they want to do and often like my daughter once they take a few classes they are better able to realize what they like or don’t like. The advantage of a public university is the availability of lots of different majors if they decide they want something completely different. Also many of the public universities accept AP scores for college credits. Because of the credits my daughter was able to switch majors without any extra semesters because so many of her gen ed classes were covered by her AP credits.
Some some food for thought for those who’s kids are not really sure what they want.
Have you looked at IIT? One of my kids did an architecture program there over the summer and loved it.
I’d say this is an advantage of most liberal arts (as opposed to pre-professional) institutions, public or private, at which the point is to learn how to learn, including about oneself.
Yup. Impacted (i.e. capped, apply-into, can’t transfer into) majors are definitely more of a thing at larger publics than at private LACs and universities.
And I say that with tremendous respect for public universities. But it’s an unfortunate reality.
And it gets very complicated. Like, at some public universities at least within their Arts and Sciences college there are no restricted majors. If so, that is not so different from just going to a standalone Arts and Sciences college. But if you are looking at public universities with restricted majors even within Arts and Sciences . . . .
Of course, obviously costs and other factors may make them excellent choices anyway. Still, I do personally want my S24 to choose a college where exploration and switching around at least within that range can be freely done.
That’s my strong preference as well (or, at least try to apply into and get accepted into the impacted major knowing you can always change out of that major).
I think this statement is much more applicable to the flagship public universities. When you get past the top tier of public universities, there are many that are still R1, have a breadth of majors including interdisciplinary, and support changes into almost every major (nursing and CS are sometimes exceptions).
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Well that’s where the rubber hits the road, right? What you wrote could probably be said about most of the top tier flagships too, i.e. there’s generally lots of freedom of movement and support for same, save for a few majors (and it’s those same majors, more or less, at all the schools).
A friend’s son just found out today that he got accepted to CO School of Mines! Super stoked for him. He was awarded a merit scholarship, too. This is a kid who is learning disabled (dysgraphia + something else I can’t remember) AND has been home schooled. Mom friend said that it was definitely a reach school for him. She and her kid are over the moon thrilled.
Mines is a great school for engineering majors. Congrats to your friends son. Our school counsellor was encouraging our S24 to add it as good target but we decided not to due to the campus and surrounding area not being diverse enough.
I liked the college so was sad when s24 dropped the college from the list. We still like colorado so added University of Colorado Boulder to the list.
I can believe it, their architecture program seems great! It was on and off her list and I don’t even remember why she eventually decided not to apply there (she was really worried about distance and cold weather for a while, so probably that).
Several of these programs only take 30 or so architecture students, so probably sub 10% acceptance rate. She is happy with her portfolio (the work she has done on it over the last few months really shows) and everything else (ACT/GPA/rank/EC, etc.) is what it is at this point.