Since i was a little kid I’ve dreamt of going to college in nyc I applied to fordham university and secretly applied to pace university as a back up.
If i dont get into fordham im planning to go to pace the only problem is my dad hates pace he thinks its a really bad school idk why he thinks that. What do i do he says that if i go to pace he will be disappointed and wont help me to pay for it at all 
Im majoring in Finance.
Sounds like you are having a pretty tough time. It would be hard for anyone on this site to give you useful information without knowing you and knowing more about your situation. Sounds like you could use someone on your side. Have you considered talking with your school guidance counselor or an advisor at your school? Some of the things that you might talk with that person about would be your goals and also what you think is behind your dad’s reluctance to support your college aspirations. Maybe the counselor and you can come up with a way to help you address the issues with your dad
or maybe the counselor could meet with your dad to help him understand and/or be more accepting of your goals. I think it is really important for you to talk with someone. It may not seem like it would do any good and I can’t promise it will. But I’ve seen good things happen when students find appropriate advocates.
Can you ask him why he thinks Pace is really bad? Then you can look into those reasons and see if they are valid. If they aren’t, you can perhaps find data to prove your point.
Also, what back up school would he like you to apply to?
whenever i ask him he just says “I just know its not a good school”
in my opinion though i think lubin school of business is pretty good
I live on long island btw
im applying to umass, uconn, BU and loyola university maryland just to satisfy him lmao
Who’s paying for school? Unless you get a full ride somewhere, you’re pretty much limited to the colleges your parents will pay for you to attend.
Well…this student is applying to several OOS public universities that will be pricey too. And BU and Loyola aren’t exactly cheap.
To the OP…what are your oarents saying about costs? How much will they pay annually? BU, for example, costs in excess of $60,000 a year now…or close to it.
its funny they dont care about paying for college
but if i go to pace they will not pay for it
Don’t worry about it now. Apply to a good variety of schools, see where you get in, and take it from there. I suggest you also look into to Manhattan College in Riverdale which is a good school (it night well satisfy your father) but a little less selective than Fordham. There are also some very good SUNY schools but they are not in NYC.
If your father holds the purse-strings you have to accept that he will have a say in your final college choice. If you don’t get to go to college in NYC don’t get too frustrated – you can always work in NYC, go to grad school in NYC, or perhaps even do an undergraduate semester or year of college in NYC.
And even if you don’t end up in your top choice school or location.never forget that there are tons of well qualified students who would give anything for the opportunity to attend a 4 year college.
the problem is my dad rates how good colleges are by seeing us news rankings
My daughter was very focused on going to college in a certain city. As I told her, college is only 4 years, and once it’s over you can live anywhere you want! I know that 4 years seems like a lifetime to someone 18 years old, but honestly you have your whole life ahead of you in which you can be in NYC or wherever!
I think your dad just wants to make sure his investment pays off. Apparently he’s not against paying top dollar at an institution where he believes you will come out with a valuable degree, he just doesn’t want to “waste” his money. But that said, I agree with previous posters that it is up to you to prove to him that the money spent at Pace would not be a waste!
thank you everyone for the advice I appreciate it
I would say to look at your SAT scores. Look at the SAT score ranges of the schools you are applying to.
PACE:
Test Scores – 25th / 75th Percentile
SAT Critical Reading: 470 / 570
SAT Math: 480 / 580
Fordham:
SAT Math: 580 / 680
SAT Writing: 580 / 680
So clearly students with better SAT scores are going to Fordham…that may be part of what your Dad is thinking. Fordham is also more selective in who is admitted…48% vs Pace’s 84%
Why does this matter? You will be with kids who take academics more seriously, and will graduate from a college that has a better reputation with employers…
Sometimes people just get a bias. My grandmother is biased against Bates – she says it’s in a yucky town with no culture and “not the sort of people who are educated.” Never mind that it’s a great school. She just remembers what it was like 50 years ago, and winces if one of my daughters indicates interest in applying.
What about Baruch? He can’t say that’s a bad school!
he said thats worse than pace
Pace is not worth the money.
starting to agree and just not go to nyc if i dont get into fordham o well
In his defense, Pace really isn’t very good at all.
And whatever you do, don’t go to UMass lol
Where does he think you should go?
As a native-born New Yorker who came of age when CUNY schools were routinely perceived as “colleges of last resort” during the early-mid '90s…especially by academically above-average students, the statement above is wrong.
Even back when I was in HS, local private schools like Pace, St. John’s(except for Pharmacy)*, Hofstra, etc were regarded on the same/lower academic level than the better 4-year CUNY colleges.
The only kids I knew who went to private colleges like Pace were either on full-ride scholarships which covered everything, for religious affinity reasons*, or kids from families who assumed private colleges are always better than public ones…even if that’s not applicable with those named private colleges.
And it’s only moreso nowadays.
Incidentally, several classmates I knew from my NYC STEM-centered public magnet turned down admission to places like NYU-Stern to attend Baruch not only due to cost, but because their business/accounting programs were respectable even back then. Most of them had no issues going to NYU-Stern, Columbia Business School, HBS or Wharton for their MBAs.