<p>“Even if the relationship is the more common one where the male is the more intelligent partner…”</p>
<p>What?
I do not agree that this is definitely more common… Or more advisable, hem hem. This just smacks of sexism, cobrat, sorry.</p>
<p>I think that many women over the ages may have HIDDEN their intelligence to make men feel superior/not make them feel insecure.
Thank GOD that is not “necessary” anymore!</p>
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<p>Don’t know. The parents and their kids…including college friend either didn’t tell or didn’t know. Am just relating what I heard from my college friend, his older sister, and impressions from my interactions with their parents. When I first met them…they were still in a mostly uncommunicative state because the intellectual gap and mutual hatred/puzzlement over each other’s hobbies/interests was so wide. </p>
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<p>My comment is piggybacking off of this one:</p>
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<p>Moreover…I never said that type of relationship is more advisable. Could you point that part out to me?</p>
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<p>The sexism–hopefully not intentional–in this comment is deeply disturbing. I’m shocked we are talking about this at all. Is this 1950? It sounds like you are saying that in most relationships the man is more intelligent than the woman. Wow.</p>
<p>Wow, this last part is getting kind of fuzzy…for the record, I HATE chick flicks and LOVE stupid action movies…I mean, the last MI film? Come on…but he went. Gotta love those Ivy league types…I screamed and clung! And he gotta love that HBCU!</p>
<p>Funny, shrinkrap. That was a good movie. In our case, I’d be far more likely to watch an action movie and reject most chick flicks. My husband likes both. Or maybe he just likes watching the chicks in the chick flicks.</p>
<p>To be fair, I actually prefer SMART action movies, but how many Bourne movies can you make? </p>
<p>And Ronin…and The Fugitive…</p>
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<p>It wasn’t intentional. I forgot to include the word “stereotypical” before the common one as my intention was to piggyback off the following comment:</p>
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“Professor who loved reading highly esoteric academic journals and literature and having highly intellectual bull sessions…mother was an elementary school teacher with a love of “chick lit”, watching TV shows H can’t stand because they were “too dumb”, and preferred talking about TV shows or the latest pseudo-scientific New Agey “discovery”.”</p>
<p>You do have quite the presumptions about what is smart and what is dumb, cobrat.
While I agree that these two would not have an easy time communicating unless they tried on each other’s interests (which is a sign of true love, as well as an elite liberal arts college education, perhaps), I am in awe of your attitude. Even if the genders were reversed.
People are just so much more complex than this…
Anyway, I do not think my going to an elite college will prevent me from enjoying “light” entertainment… as much as the latest articles on how to treat pancreatic cancer… or the latest book by Salman Rushdie or Umberto Eco.
Again, thank god, here that we are all so infinitely unique and paradoxical!</p>
<p>In my house, I think my DH is smarter than I am, and he thinks I am smarter than he. Works out great. Except he likes violent and chop sake movies, and I like chick flicks and mysteries. We both went to a preview tonight of “Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close”, the new Sandra Bullock/Tom Hanks movie about 9/11. Very intense movie. Very good. Highly recommend it for males and females. And DH did swallow his pride and accompany me to “The devil Wears Prada”. He was almost the only male in the theater. The other 2 came together.</p>
<p>As an aside, I am still smiling at Hunt’s reference, earlier today, to the groucho marx line “who ya gonna believe? Me or your own eyes”. Classic line, Hunt.</p>
<p>jym626:
Bottom line, NEITHER of one of you can be as smart as you “think” you are (I gonna believe after cobrat’s post, based on your movie preferences) - an even better world than the one you so aptly describe! WINK
Glad it was a good flick.</p>
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<p>The perceptions above are those strongly held by the husband and all the kids. It also isn’t about equating enjoying light entertainment with lower intelligence…but a strong disinterest in discussing of highly intellectual topics and buying heavily into every pseudo-science New Agey “discovery”. </p>
<p>The last part was what caused my impression to accord with that of their kids as the pseudo-science she bought into included absurdities like the idea that tofu was bad for you because some sketchy New Agey pamphet said it contained too much estrogen…never minding that it has been consumed for centuries in Asia with no visible negative effects. She’s a friendly person and personable…but she incredulously believes pseudo-scientific claims anyone with a modicum of common sense and a basic high school science education should be able to see through for the BS it actually is.</p>
<p>BTW: the “dumb” characterization of the TV shows was that of my friend’s Dad and college friend…and it was meant to be applied to TV in general. He’s one of those “Kill your television” type Profs and actually did denounce my love of “The A-Team” TV show I loved as a kid as “a dumb show” no better than the Soap Operas or “Chick flicks” on TV" to my face.</p>
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<p>Which “state school”? “State school” describes a huge range of schools… (and so does “private school”)</p>
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<p>He could take a job someplace else and make slightly less. I don’t know where MM’s son works, and he may be an exceptionally well paid fellow, but it’s not like everyone at Google is making a million bucks a year.</p>
<p>[Top</a> 10 Tech Companies That Pay Engineers The Most — Tech News and Analysis](<a href=“http://gigaom.com/2009/03/01/top-10-tech-companies-that-pay-engineers-the-most/]Top”>http://gigaom.com/2009/03/01/top-10-tech-companies-that-pay-engineers-the-most/)</p>
<p>So salary is not necessarily a good reason to pick a school.</p>
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<li>state schools in FL</li>
<li>the exciting companies, from young person’s perspective, like Google, Apple, Microsoft, Intel,FB, and start-ups, interview for summer internships at the colleges with top CS departments. when college cost $35,000, and first job paid in the $70’s, it made sense. Actually we didn’t think so far into the future.</li>
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<p>woops = had decided not to post and hit wrong spot.</p>
<p>Smartness; I turn to my s/o for technical help, and he is rather helpless with cooking food.</p>
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<p>Actually, Cobrat, you picked a bad example. There is a lot of complex research data on soy phytoestrogens (isoflavones), and the potentially negative effects are fat from ‘absurd’.</p>
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<p>So by the same token, is the only reason your daughter attends a prestigious public magnet school is because it’s (essentially) free, right? You wouldn’t actually pay any money to send her there, because as a bright motivated young lady she could have gotten the equivalent education at your rural high school, correct?</p>
<p>If you were to rank state schools, then obvioiusly some would rank way above others–even to those who are absolute proponents of the notion of only sending kids to state universities.</p>
<p>So for starters, some people are at a total advantage over others if their state school is overall better or if it has an amazing program in the field a student wants to study.</p>
<p>So what happens to everybody else? Do we all re-locate to states like Michigan, Virginia, Pennsylvania and Maryland?</p>
<p>Well in a sense, many do–by sending their students to out-of state, state universities. And in general, that comes with a price tag of an additional $20K a year or $80 over 4 years.</p>
<p>So now we are in the territory of asking how much more money would a private cost in reality–especially a private that will give merit aid for those not getting financial aid or often more generous financial aid packages for those who qualify for financial aid?</p>
<p>That is the situation that brought D to a private with merit aid. A good out of state university was going to cost us in the range of $35K to $40K anyway. D was able to garner several merit awards in the $10K to $20K range that made privates pretty comparably priced to good state schools.</p>
<p>The OP asked if paying 50K plus a year at an “elite” private school versus 10K at a very good public was worth it. They defined “it” as better connections and whatever else would be the extra value of attending such a school.</p>
<p>We don’t know if they can afford it or would have to take out loans.</p>
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<p>From reading the “studies” which play up the dangers of soy phytoestrogens…especially the pamphlet she was using…the way they were conducted and interpreted would fail to meet the most basic standards in any decent high school science lab exercise…and that’s before they add on the sensationalist hype reminiscent of supermarket tabloids.</p>
<p>To add to the dubiousness, these “studies” were all sponsored and paid for by sketchy New Agey type nutrition supplement or lifestyle fly-by-night companies that you’d mostly see in unsolicited junk mail or late night paid infomercials. </p>
<p>Moreover, from talking with several medical doctors(including 3 past roommates)…while they don’t deny the presence of phytoestrogens in soy products…you’d need to eat something on the order of a ton in a few weeks to get the concentrations needed for them to even be worthy of concern. They also pointed out like I did in my previous comment that tofu and other soy products have been widely consumed for centuries in Asian countries with no apparent side effects. If anything…from their words…the soy/tofu heavy diet present in many Asian countries is often healthier on average than those commonplace in many Western countries…especially the US.</p>