Penn 2017 ED Discussion Thread

<p>as kbolisetty23 mentions, there were exceptions with really low SAT scorers being accepted. However, those are exceptions and I believe they are mostly due to their rare ethnicity or special talents they possess. Also, I do believe Penn loves alum’s child as applicants. I am not sure if those rec’s and your alum record is going to cover up your low SAT grades though, because that is wayyy below average. I’m sorry but I won’t have much expectation on penn unless you have excellent extra curriculars that would distinguish you</p>

<p>When is our final decision date??</p>

<p>As of now, Dec 12th, 6pm EST. But there will be an email next week with the final date. </p>

<p>Crossing my fingers that it’s moved to the 7th… it’d be nice just to have a weekend to recover from the blow of rejection (or celebrate for acceptance - but that’s just wishful thinking.)</p>

<p>Just wondering- how did the 7th come up as a possible earlier date? (as opposed to the 8th or 9th etc)</p>

<p>if we don’t get an e-mail on monday there’s no way the date is going to get moved to the 7th just to make it clear… So let’s hope we receive something on monday (morning i hope)</p>

<p>^^The 7th because generally, decisions have been released on Fridays.</p>

<p>But yes - a Monday email would be a nice start to the week :)</p>

<p>just wondering, but what majors did you all apply into? I did Health and Societies in CAS and now I’m trying to gauge how big it is haha</p>

<p>^ You don’t “apply into” majors, you just list what your prospective major is. You don’t have to major in whatever you put down. I also doubt that Penn puts a lot of value into what you list as your major, considering it can change.</p>

<p>Unless you’re applying into Wharton. I hear they have a separate applicant pool all together for Wharton. Anyone know anything about that?</p>

<p>^ Two things. First, you don’t apply “into” Wharton, you apply “to” Wharton.</p>

<p>Second, they will view an application for Wharton differently than an application to CAS or SEAS. My point above was that they probably don’t put too much value on what you listed as your prospective major within the school you applied to.</p>

<p>^Do they have an entirely separate apppication round for Wharton?</p>

<p>Lol my mistake.</p>

<p>Secondly - the point of my question was not to challenge your knowledge of the application process buddy, I only wanted to know the extent to which Wharton applicants are regarded separately from CAS or SEAS applicants. Can you help me with that?</p>

<p>^ Each undergrad school at Penn has a certain number of open spaces for its incoming freshman class. In rough terms, there are about 400-500 openings for Wharton, 1500-1600 for CAS, 400 or so for SEAS, and 100-125 for Nursing. And slightly less than half of those openings (last year, it was 46%) are filled during the ED round. Therefore, each applicant is viewed in the context of all other applicants–and the number of openings in the freshman class–for the particular school to which the applicant applied. So, for example, if there are 200 ED openings for Wharton (just picking that number for illustrative purposes, and not saying that’s the actual number), and there are 1,000 ED applicants to Wharton (again, just for illustrative purposes), then those 1,000 ED Wharton applicants are evaluated against each other for those 200 ED Wharton places.</p>

<p>Generally, the total number of spaces filled during the ED round is somewhat flexible, depending on the number and quality of applicants, but it has never been higher than about 1,200, saving at least half–and generally slightly more–of the spaces to be fill during the RD round.</p>

<p>Hi does anyone know how I’m supposed to rush my scores? Because on their website they say i’m supposed to send it before i receive it… but when I called collegeboard they said I couldn’t rush it until I had my score on dec4th…</p>

<p>Wow! Considering ED only accounts for about 15% of their applicants (4700 ED applicants and 32,000 applicants in total), it’s pretty surprising that Penn fills up 46% of its seats through ED.</p>

<p>^ Penn’s ED acceptance rate last year was around 25%. The RD acceptance rate was 9-10%. The average stats (SATs, GPAs, etc.) of those accepted through ED are comparable to those accepted through RD. And it’s not really surprising, given that Columbia and Dartmouth fill similar percentages of their classes through ED, as does Harvard through EA, and Yale and Princeton accept MORE than half of their target class numbers through EA.</p>

<p>What surprises me is that though the quantitative indicators (that’s what we are restricted to of course) of both your average ED applicant and your average RD applicant are similar, RD kids have a MUCH lower chance of getting in, simply because so high a proportion the class is filled by so low a proportion of the applicants. By giving 15% of their applicants 46% of the seats, isn’t Penn (or indeed any of the colleges you mentioned) risking losing out on a large number of potentially better qualified students coming in RD?</p>

<p>On a personal note - as an ED applicant to Penn - I’m thrilled =D
But I have to wonder.</p>

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<p>In a word, no. Penn’s Admissions Office evaluates and models its various applicant pools, and determines how many of a given year’s ED applicants it can accept and still leave room for RD applicants with comparable qualifications. They’ve been doing it for a long time now, and are quite adept at it, as are the admissions offices at peer schools.</p>

<p>And again, the average SATs, etc. of those accepted through ED end up being comparable to matriculants who were accepted through RD.</p>

<p>Ahh I see. What I gather then is that ED applicants as a whole are a more competitive pool of applicants than RD, as a result of which, Penn takes a higher percentage of them. Correct?</p>