Penn 2017 ED Discussion Thread

<p>Hopefully I did that through my application joshroz…I honestly can’t take the wait anymore and looking at the columbia ED thread made me feel worse…I wish the best for everyone on this thread, who knows we who expect straight up rejection might get accepted…</p>

<p>does anyone know/ strong believe at least 50% of the 4700 applicants applied to wharton?</p>

<p>^I really doubt it’s that much…</p>

<p>How many do you think applied to CAS?</p>

<p>probably like 65% cas</p>

<p>so around 25% wharton? :)</p>

<p>20% to Wharton
60% to CAS
15% to SEAS
5% to Nursing</p>

<p>That is based on pure proportions of admittance during the entirety of the admissions process.</p>

<p>Now lets take into account other facts.
Wharton’s overall admittance rate has be assumed to be around 7%…which would put the total amount of applicants at 7100.
That is about 22% of the total application (as suggest by the unadjusted numbers)</p>

<p>Taking into account ED, we can safely assume that Wharton’s rate is higher, SEAS is slightly lower, CAS is lower, and Nursing remains the same.</p>

<p>To me it seems
Wharton- 30-35%
CAS- 50-55%
SEAS- 10%
Nursing- 5%</p>

<p>I still believe Wharton is probably not as high as 35%…I say this because it would make sense that people thinking about Wharton are probably competitive for other Ivy’s and maybe taking chances in the RD round. So 30% would be reasonable to say.
Still pure speculation with a little math mixed in.</p>

<p>i’m liking your pragmatic thinking process drac313</p>

<p>Actually, how does the decision page look like? Will there be a huge colored accepted/deferred/rejected on the page? Or is it gonna be like an email…just curious…</p>

<p>I guess we’ll just have to wait and see in four days… Praying for the best.</p>

<p>After you log into the decision page, you’ll see a letter from Dean Furda. If it’s similar to the past few years, the acceptance letter starts off with “Hurrah, hurrah Pennsylvania!” And “Welcome to the Class of 2016 of the College (or Wharton/SEAS/Nursing),” or something like that.</p>

<p>I don’t mean to stoke the fire again, but the URM argument was pretty amusing. I just think we’re getting a tad edgy, perhaps because of our impending decisions. </p>

<p>I must say, though, that I agree with pixels on this one. A school like Penn sees applicants from all across the spectrum of objective stats, from a 1800er to a 2400er (in SAT, for example). These stats, while being an important factor, are not the ONLY parameter on which applicants are judged. I doubt that the deciding factor between a student with 2100 and one with 2300 is their SAT score. So this argument that URMs have it easier because the average SAT score for a non-URM applicant is higher than a URM applicant makes no sense to me. Colleges are trying to build a well-rounded class, after all. I feel in discussing college selectivity, we give far too much significance to SAT scores. URMs add diversity to a class, and I don’t think anyone is saying URMs that get into schools like Penn are not inherently good enough to be there. I feel after a certain threshold score, colleges look beyond SAT scores, and at what the applicant would bring to the campus culture and the student society.</p>

<p>Just a comment:</p>

<p>I was an Asian from the northeast applying to SEAS. I play piano, violin, and guitar. I’m a swimmer.</p>

<p>I had a 2120 SAT. 730 in Physics, 770 in Math II. 6 total APs - 4 perfect, a 4, and a 2.</p>

<p>I got in.</p>

<p>I know for a FACT that Penn is one of the least superficial, yet still selective universities in the country. They truly select their class with so much care that when my regional admission officer saw me on campus (during Preview Days we wore name tags), she immediately recalled reading my application. She commented on SPECIFICS (phrases, sentences, words) that appeared in my essays, and I wouldn’t be surprised if she could recite my address and all my personal information in addition to everything else she remembered about me. When she saw me, she even asked where my classmate (who had also been admitted last year) was, and when I told her he had decided to take a year off, she asked me to relay to him that she thought his essays were beautiful and that she is glad that he is deciding to go against the grain and enjoy a year away from the norm. </p>

<p>For those prospective freshman who are awaiting the fast-approaching notification date, don’t think for a second that the objective facets of your application will define the decision you receive. The reason you get in isn’t because you got a 2400 and 23 perfect AP scores (yes, I have met someone here who fits that), and conversely, the reason you don’t get in isn’t because you had a 2120 and only a few APs. Penn selects students based on who they are, and if you don’t get in, it won’t be because you’re not good enough; it’ll be because you really aren’t meant to be here (as cliche as that sounds). You would be much happier somewhere else and trust me (even if it might be hard to in 4 days) when I say that the admissions committee here can absolutely distinguish between those who would find Penn to fit them perfectly, and those who wouldn’t. </p>

<p>Regardless, keep your heads up, and best of luck class of 2017. It’ll be over before you know it. I hope to see most of you on campus next year!</p>

<p>I always assume the adcoms are like my English/History teachers. The cool ones, who care.</p>

<p>I completely agree. I kinda sorta stalked my regional admissions counselor (yes, I’m that paranoid). I’ve also met her. </p>

<p>She’s a philosophy major from a tiny liberal arts school, currently getting her masters in education at Penn. She was really sweet and seemed really passionate about Penn when I talked to her. </p>

<p>She knows how hard it is. I think all adcoms do. They used to be in our positions, you know.</p>

<p>@ laodicean</p>

<p>This is exactly the mindset we all need to have. Thanks for reminding us that it’s not a myth that colleges care about the people they admit and that it’s not a randmized machine giving out decisions.</p>

<p>It is nice to know that admissions officers aren’t arbitrarily handing out acceptance letters. But this is the very reason why rejection hurts so much; they aren’t just “randomly” rejecting us, no - they are very purposefully, meticulously, and adamantly rejecting us. I mean, ouch.</p>

<p>@foxtails: conversely, when we’re accepted (to Penn or elsewhere), it’s because the admissions officers very purposefully, meticulously, and adamantly want us. :)</p>

<p>@psychedelia: I like your perspective of this whole process much better than my own. Thank you :)</p>

<p>I’ve set up a timer on my laptop so that I can always check exactly how much time tehre is until the Penn decisions come out. Too much?</p>