<p>Let's face it...</p>
<p>Penn is awesome</p>
<p>its alright...</p>
<p>Well, I think it obviously shouldn't be ranked higher than Stanford in selectivity. Huge amount of the money considered in "financial resource" actually goes to Penn's prestigious medical center which got nothing to do with undergraduate students. I believe you guys are intelligent enough to discern these and many other flaws in the US News ranking.</p>
<p>Hey, I'm "happy to be there."</p>
<p>Medical schools are massive money-sinks for every school that has one, the operating costs are astronomical; I don't, however, see how Penn benefits from the US News ranking because of this any more than any other school with a medical school, schools like oh, I don't know, Stanford...</p>
<p>Well, the research grants for UPenn med school ($480M) is twice the size of Stanford's in 2004. That's also 10 times the research money for its engineering school.</p>
<p>well, I guess that means Penn Med is just that much better, doesn't it?</p>
<p>Penn pwns you all</p>
<p>i REALLY want to talk to someone who's at UPENN. I'm becoming junior and quite anxious yet stressful about college admissions.</p>
<p>if i were you, i wouldnt begin worrying until february, or you will be even more stressed out in your senior year.</p>
<p>Penn was also ranked #1 in the nation for faculty resources.</p>
<p>And one thing that the rankings really can't reflect is the vibrancy of the social scene. I have visited Harvard and Princeton and have friends at H, Y, and P. I can tell you without a doubt that Penn has a much more active party and Greek scene than those schools. It's a great balance between academics and fun, which is probably why Newsweek just recognized Penn as having an exceptionally satisfied student body (resulting from admissions' stated policy of giving preference to ED applicants).</p>
<p>Just because they rank it #4 doesn't mean it's really #4. Just because it says it's #1 in faculty resource doesn't mean it's really #1 in that either. In faculty resource, US News claims to factor students/faculty ratio, % classes with #students over 50, and % of faculty being full-time. UPenn has students/faculty ratio 1/6, similar to many peers (around 1/6 to 1/7). UPenn has less (but not by much) % of classess with #students over 50 than many peers but has significantly less % of full-time professors. Somehow, the last factor didn't seem to hurt Penn much and Penn was ranked #1.</p>
<p>why dont you kids just go out and throw some frisbees or something, damn</p>
<p>mengcheng: i couldn't have thought of a better response. do you throw? or go to penn? i'm transferring there this year, if you want to throw some send me an i.m. mdford86</p>
<p>Actually, if they rank it #4, it really means it's #4. That's what rankings are, you know?</p>
<p>Hahaha, show him who's boss.</p>
<p>If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and "aflacs" like a duck, it's a duck. #4 = #4.</p>
<p>Well, I personally don't think it's better than Stanford. I also don't think its more selective than Columbia and Dartmouth, let alone Stanford. Many people don't think so either. If you <em>truly</em> believe it's better and "more selective" than Stanford, power to you.</p>
<p>Well, personally, I think Flying Spaghetti Monsterism* should be taught alongside evolution in the classrooms, but am I right?</p>
<p>The answer is no.</p>
<p>*<a href="http://www.venganza.org%5B/url%5D">www.venganza.org</a></p>
<p>AND, more selective does not necessarily mean "better". Look at UChicago.</p>
<p>Just had to add that.</p>
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<p>Thanks for stating the obvious. But did I say otherwise?? I said Stanford is better AND more selective.</p>
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<p>If you believe the US News rankings don't have any subjective element, you are pretty naive.</p>