<p>I've already ordered a stock of giant foam "#1" hands with 6 fingers.</p>
<p>Of course, I firmly believe that the degree to which rankings are valid is directly proportional to my school's rank within them. Which means these rankings are slightly less valid than last year's.</p>
<p>12 straight years at 4-7. What d'ya think? Maybe another couple of decades at that level before "the public" starts to actually believe it? ;)</p>
<p>Hopefully the NRC rankings to be released next month will remove all doubts about how far Penn has come</p>
<h1>6 is exactly where we deserve to be.</h1>
<p>^ lol..yeah, but we should sort of make it a weighted average, so we should multiply wharton's rank by percent of wharton students who are actually decent people. soo....1*0.5...lol...</p>
<p>^lol... I was giving them a chance.. about half of the wharton people I know are decent...but then again I avoid whartonites like the plague</p>
<p>let me guess dream team, you were thinking something along the lines of HYPSMPenn?</p>
<p>Princeton
Yale
MIT
Penn
Stanford</p>
<p>^PYMPS ... nice, although Penn should have been the first P</p>
<p>I miss the days when we were 4.
I gave Princeton the first P for those ignorant people who still think that it's better than Penn. Harvard can't touch PYMPS though.</p>
<p>Penn's #1 and everyone else is stuck behind.</p>
<p>Penn
Stanford
Harvard</p>
<p>big PYMPn (10 char)</p>
<p>haha....just out of curiosity to a future applicant. Would you guy say that Penn and Columbia are equally prestigious and good schools. I would and I think these rankings reflect that, but just curious what you penn people think.</p>
<p>objective response:
yes, columbia and penn are of comparable prestige. they're generally considered the "middle ivies" (below the big 3 of HPY).</p>
<p>subjective response:
hell no... penn is far and away better than columbia in all aspects.</p>
<p>I consider Penn and Columbia to be two of the top six universities in the country. The other four are Harvard, Stanford, Yale and Berkeley. These two schools have awesome depth in terms of what they offer and their faculties are pretty even. They are better at different things but considering all things, they are really even. Academic wise and prestige wise.</p>
<p>In fact, Columbia was my one of my top 3 schools (along with Penn and Harvard).</p>
<p>i think you're considering graduate schools/research output, chi-town. berkeley is in no way a top undergraduate institution. being a public severely limits student body quality (though less so in a large state like cali), and the huge size means you're a number, not a person, in a lot of your classes. </p>
<p>but if you're talking about being well-rounded universities, i am inclined to agree with you.</p>