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<p>Is it less of a crime if the head coach didn’t know?</p>
<p>The question was regarding the difference between the two scandals. If this is true it is a horrific crime as well. But right now the PSU scandal is much worse as the investigation has turned up more information. As the Syracuse scandal unfolds there may be as much there as possible, and if so then there should be severe repercussion there as well.</p>
<p>The “motivation” may come from an outrage that the crimes went on for so long at PSU, that a witness actually came forward in 2002 and went to the head of the program and nothing happened. A child was raped in a PSU shower in the sports facility. You cannot possibly consider yourself a victim of a media witch hunt. Another victim came forward today. The lives that were destroyed are a great motivator</p>
<p>I find it interesting that some posters have such difficulties agreeing that it’s ok to have different views/opinions on how to move forward while still being able to agree on the problem. Just because we don’t feel football needs to be suspended you “assume” that we don’t get the gravity of the situation. I love the comment that we “live in a bubble”. I really don’t get that comment at all other than believing it makes some feel better to put down others. Knowing that I have a son at PSU, I’ve had multiple coworkers come to me to discuss the situation. There are some that are in agreement there’s no need to suspend football to move forward. Many have actually said that they think this is a system wide problem - not just a Penn St. problem. These coworkers don’t have any affiliation to PSU, they aren’t alumni, don’t have children there, dont’ live in PA. They simply feel that a clearing of coaching staff is enough. SO, do they somehow live in this so-called bubble as well? Does everybody that doesn’t agree with your solution live in that bubble? Must be pretty crowded in there - but I guess I’m in good company.</p>
<p>Thank you, ljrfrm. I have pretty much given up on this.</p>
<p>Kumitedad- Actually curious as to why this topic is of such great interest to you??? It certainly does seem like a personal vendetta against all things Penn State. Since August, you have posted around 95 times. Only 6 of those posts have NOT related to the scandal regarding Jerry Sandusky and Penn State. It’s actually almost amusing at this point.</p>
<p>So since I am against a coverup of a molestation by the football program I am against “All Things Penn State”? Being against a situation where a university is used to help a predator, that is being against “All things Penn State” Is the program that worshipped that you can’t even suggest that it be suspended for a year? You may not need to suspend your football program voluntarily anyway. The NCAA is looking into a loss of institutional control by the university over its program. You may just want to get ahead of the curve here and show that you understand the gravity of the situation.</p>
<p>What I find interesting (I am not going to use the word amusing) is that instead of reacting to facts, people are questioning the motivations of those who brought this up. Espn, other posters. The facts speak for themselves. It would be tragic to start thinking of this in those terms. This is not us versus them. That will never help the situation that is faced now at PSU. </p>
<p>People who posted did so in a reaction to a horrific crime and coverup. Especially Parents want to see justice done for children that have been so treated.</p>
<p>Yep…</p>
<p>Rolls eyes…</p>
<p>This thread is starting to feel like a broken record…</p>
<p>Thanks 1moremom - yes, time to give up!</p>
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<p>I think the perception of hypocrisy also plays a large part in the reaction to Penn State. What happened there, and how officials responded, just doesn’t jive with the decades of talk about honor, integrity, responsibility, etc. JoePa’s “higher standard” was MIA when it came to the Sandusky problem.</p>
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<p>The people I talk to about this agree with your coworkers. Must be a dang big bubble for it to extend all the way to Africa!!! ;)</p>
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<p>Just because we don’t think it’s necessary to suspend the football program, we don’t “understand the gravity of the situation?”</p>
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<p>Yup. Altho it has been fun to wake up and read this with my morning jolt of caffeine. Guess I’ll go check on tickets for the LSU-Alabama game! :)</p>
<p>[Students</a> grill administrators on handling of Sandusky case | Penn State | CentreDaily.com](<a href=“http://www.centredaily.com/2011/12/01/3005009/students-grill-administrators.html]Students”>http://www.centredaily.com/2011/12/01/3005009/students-grill-administrators.html)</p>
<p>Since this is a college information board, and all, I thought those who wondered about the students might be interested in the article referenced above.</p>
<p>The parents’ forum thread about the case has drifted off the posting highway, so I assume the persons in the broken record department have come here instead to keep posting. If, like 1moremom suggests, we just stop with attempts to convey a different point of view, they won’t have an audience. Schadenfreude, indeed.</p>