<p>go to penn if you’re doing business
go to penn if you want to have a social life/have fun
go to yale for anything else.</p>
<p>Yale hands down for everything, even business. If you got into both Penn and Yale, would you even think twice about Penn? You should be applying early to places you genuinely want to attend, not to game the college admissions process.</p>
<p>You’re competitive enough for Yale so apply early to see what happens. It is your dream school after all and you don’t want to be wondering “what if” for the rest of your life.</p>
<p>What is with the reputation of UPenn being an especially social school? Where does that come from? It seems like the rationale is “its not as prestigious, so the kids must know how to party better.” The only Ivy about which I’ve heard legitimate questions about social life is Harvard. Yale’s great, Penn’s great, Princeton’s great, Brown’s great, Columbia, Cornell and Dartmouth are great. I just have absolutely no clue where the idea that UPenn is a superior social school comes from.</p>
<p>To answer the original question, though, it all depends on how good your Safety is. If you have a legit safety you’d be happy attending, go for Yale. If you really don’t, you might want to apply to Penn so just in case you don’t get in, you’ll have a few months to imagine yourself attending a non-Ivy school–as opposed to being deferred from Yale and possibly being hit like a truck on April 1.</p>
<p>^Thank you. Some people on CC are just so damn oblivious. For an undergrad education, Penn and Yale are GREAT schools. If you’re worried of prestige, well, they both “wow” everyone you tell them where you go to college (I don’t know why this is important, but okay). If you believe Yale is going to make people go “wow” even longer, then you’re a hopeless cause.</p>
<p>To split hairs and compare them is just stupid. But people are going to ignore me anyways and go on about their own…
Pick whichever university that seems right. You wont get much life-changing answers here. </p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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<p>New Haven what? It’s like West Philly but without the rest of Philly to redeem it…</p>
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Oh, the horror! I can’t imagine the shock and sadness of that outcome. It’s truly too terrible to imagine!</p>
<p>Here’s the breakdown of admissions, if it helps. Penn did not separate its ED and RD numbers this year, but they can be estimated based on breakdowns from previous years. </p>
<p>Yale 2014
SCEA applied: 5261
SCEA admitted: 730 (13.9%)
SCEA rejected: 1900 (36.1%)
SCEA deferred: 2631 (50%)
RD applied: 20608
Total RD pool: 23239
RD admitted: 1210 (5.21%)</p>
<p>Penn 2014
ED applied: 3842
ED admitted: 1150 (29.9%)
RD rejected: 1412 (36.8%)
ED deferred: 1280 (33.3%)
RD applied: 23096
Total RD pool: 24376
RD admitted: 2680 (11.0%)</p>
<p>jgraider: i am applying to CAS, which has a unique major im interested in. </p>
<p>I really really love yale overall when it comes down to it, but penn has the perfect major and its nice enough that i would really like it. i guess i worry about wondering for a long time after if i couldve gotten in. but the high ed admit rate is so tempting. and prestige is important to me because i’ve worked hard to make my family proud.</p>
<p>Apply to the school you think you would fit in best. Both are good schools.
It is my opinion that Yale is ranked a little higher than Penn based predominantly on past reputation.</p>
<p>but if i apply to yale scea, im risking not gettting in anywhere.</p>
<p>O yes, How have I forgotten Yale’s great business program?!?! haha Does Yale have Greek life? Don’t think they do, but I could be wrong on that one.</p>
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<p>If Penn has a unique major that interests you, there’s the answer to your question. That’s easily a deal-breaker between two schools that are both excellent, both prestigious, and the differences are more about personal fit and preference.</p>
<p>but i feel like yale has a wow factor that penn lacks.</p>
<p>New Haven is a crappy town and its also somewhat dangerous. Philadelphia is so much more lively and fun. It’s funny when admissions officers and students from Yale tell you that New Haven is such a good town because it is close to NYC, Boston and Philly. Both schools are superb academically. Yale gets the upper hand because it is a little bit more prestigious. However you can achieve anything at both schools. </p>
<p>I also heard its easier to get into Penn ED. They have like a 20-30% acceptance rate. I think you should apply to Penn. I think you should base your decision on “fit.” Both are superb in terms of research and academics.</p>
<p>I’m not homophobic or anything, but there is also a high homosexual population at Yale from what I was told by Yale undergrad and medical students .</p>
<p>People always confuse Penn and Penn State lol, but then again a degree from Yale is highly sought after.</p>
<p>I liked Penn more than Yale, but I wouldn’t do ED if you think you might regret it. </p>
<p>Also, are you doing Wharton, CAS, or SEAS?</p>
<p>CAS for sure. also i don’t really like big cities. i live like 30 min from nyc and i really don’t like the vibe. </p>
<p>but sup, i don’t think i’d regret going to penn cus it really is fantastic? just dissapointed that i didnt believe in myself enough to really go for my top school.</p>
<p>Yale FTW. No real comparison. HYP are a world apart from the rest of the pack.</p>
<p>^Why did you include Michigan in that list of elite schools?</p>
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Then apply SCEA to Yale and be done with it. You seem like you’d regret not applying if you don’t, and the average candidate has at least a very small chance of getting in SCEA as opposed to almost no chance of getting in RD. ED is intended for candidates with a distinct first choice, moreover, and that is clearly not you.</p>
<p>As a tip for the future, you’ll probably get less irritable posts if you don’t imply that being accepted to one of the best universities in the world is settling for a second-rate education. You are correct that everyone is entitled to his own opinions and values, but Saiyans is equally correct that most college grads (heck, most people 20+) would roll their eyes at the perceptions of prestige that are so important to many high schoolers.</p>
<p>I did undergrad at Yale and grad school at Penn. The vibes of the two universities are VERY different. Yale is much more intellectual at the undergrad level, artsier, with, I think, a much more intellectually diverse student body. The college system is just WONDERFUL. I hated the frat-centric nature of Penn. Yale’s got a $16billion endowment supporting 11,000 students; Penn’s got a $6 billion endowment supporting 20,000+ students – it makes a difference in what the two universities can offer.</p>
<p>If you really fell in love with Yale (and I am not clear that you did) then go for it. If you are a competitive candidate for Yale or Penn’s early rounds, then you will be competitive for Penn’s regular round if Yale doesn’t work out.</p>
<p>And yes, Philly is a better city by leaps and bounds but, in reality, you will spend most of your time in and about the Penn campus in West Philly, not in Center City. I preferred the amenities and atmosphere in and around Yale than I did to West Philly where I lived. I always found West Philly kind of depressing, even creepy. The number of incidents of things happening to students in my class at Penn (theft, muggings, a stabbing) left me with the impression that West Philly is more threatening than the area right around Yale.</p>
<p>apply penn ed</p>