They will only announce the actual yield after they release the EWL, in mid June.
@f2000sa the target for 2021 was 2445, like this year. If the yield was 67% there, .67*3699(number accepted last year) is 2478, meaning they would have overenrolled last year too. Yet the waitlist was still used last year, apparently 58 people.
You are correct
If you check the class profile 2457/3757= 65.39%
http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/apply/whatpennlooksfor/incoming-class-profile
However, they still claims 67% yield.
http://www.thedp.com/article/2017/08/class-of-2021-yield-rate
I can not explain why. They must have different way of calculation.
@f2000sa Who knows. I hope there is still space, but at this late it really is confusing.
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The admissions process needs reform. If all colleges get on board, there is no need for a waitlist beyond May 15.
Another week, another no response.
Just to be clear, they didn’t take even a single applicant off of their extended waitlist so far? Did they take any from original waitlist before going to extended list?
No one knows for sure. Not all applicants, or even only a small set, are on CC.
I talked to someone at admission last week over the phone, and according to a lady, they did take some from waitlist for engineering during last week, but she wouldn’t tell me how many. My student has a very high GPA with top 1% test scores, but didn’t make it during RD. More than little disappointed. Sent in a very long letter to show the continued interest with additional letters of recommendation, but pretty gave up at this point. It’s our fault for not hiring people to help us during the application time like almost everyone from my student’s high school did. Being honest and hard worker don’t get you very far these days.
Mom169. I couldn’t agree more. Too many parents of applicants hire admissions experts and spend tons of money and years in prep to market their kids. I have heard of couples timing the birth of their child so that they have a slight developmental advantage within their cohort. In the end it is a question of happiness and my guess is your child will be the happier person with an upbringing that underscored honesty, a true love of learning, and hard work. Best wishes to you and your student.
I disagree. If I need help with my taxes, I can hire an accountant. If I need help with a legal issue, I can hire a lawyer. If I I need help putting carpet down, I can hire a carpenter. If I need help with test prep, I can hire a tutor. If I need help with the college admission process, I can hire a college counselor to answer questions I or my child might have. That is not “dishonest” unless they are writing the essays for the child or doing something else immoral. Everyone figures out how they would like to spend the money they have. And there’s plenty of “free help” in the college process (Community Based Organizations) for families that truly need advice, but can’t afford it. Students can use be honest and hard workers and happy people while still accepting the advice of others, paid or unpaid. It’s fine to look back and say you should have hired someone, but it’s simply untrue to say that everyone who did is dishonest or not a hard worker. And just for the record, I didn’t hire a test prep tutor or counselor. But I wouldn’t have hesitated to do so if I thought I needed to. (50% of my friends hired a college counselor and about 95% paid for some form of test prep - their kids ARE honest and hard-working.)
Desie1, I am sorry to disagree. I don’t want to come off as argumentative. Hiring an accountant to help with taxes etc etc makes sense. The tax application/applicant is not being judged. This is true for your other examples as well. However hiring a college admissions “advisor” is like hiring an expert to help you create a painting, a work of art that is being judged as your own. Someone who advises you on what type of composition will be rated highest using their years of experience, and who shows you the best way to pick the colors, directs you on the brush strokes, and tells you where and when to display your work etc. In the end who’s painting is it? These experts charge 10s of thousands of dollars to create impressions. The community advisors you refer to simply give advice as to when to take the SATs, to get involved in activities etc. The paid expert is really a college applications marketing expert, not a simple advisor who is counseling students for free. These experts are hired very early on in the student’s career. Sometimes in middle school.
This is a side track and I wish everyone the best of luck–wherever their student ends up. It is not where you go to school, it is what you make of it!
This thread has veered way off course…it is about Penn’s waitlist.
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Does anyone know what time a notification would be made (for example, other schools were around 5 pm), or could it be at any time throughout the period in which the Admissions Office is open?
Anytime when there is an opening until mid June when they will close the WL.
Hopefully there’s something this week!
Question: is it pretty much safe to say it’s over if we don’t hear news by the end of this week? I know it’s not “officially” over until they release the notification, but I mean in the sense that it’s extremely extremely unlikely.
@ElCapitan33 that’s what I’m starting to think. I’m trying to stay hopeful but Friday is June 1. I can’t imagine them taking a chunk of people off the wailist in June. I just want some more information or an update. They are so vague when anyone calls.