Penn waitlisted over 3,000 applicants to the Class of 2014

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Penn waitlists over 3,000
U. decreased waitlist by 500 spots, though several peers increased theirs
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<p>by Brooke Huestis--Wednesday, April 7, 2010 at 10:53 pm</p>

<p>After the most competitive year ever for college applicants, the number of students being placed on college waitlists has gone up significantly. Although Penn’s list shrunk this year, it is still one of the largest reported.</p>

<p>While most Ivy League schools have not released their waitlist numbers, those that have reported them showed substantial increases in the number of applicants placed on the list.</p>

<p>Penn’s waitlist decreased by about 500 spots this year, bringing the total number of students waitlisted to slightly over 3,000, according to Dean of Admissions Eric Furda.</p>

<p>Traditionally, Penn has accepted students off of the waitlist primarily in May and June.</p>

<p>Princeton University placed 1,451 students on their waitlist for the class of 2014 — an increase from last year’s 1,331.</p>

<p>Yale University’s rose to 932 from 769, while Harvard University chose not to disclose their numbers.</p>

<p>Stanford University’s list is at 998, and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology’s went up 59 percent. MIT reported placing 722 on the list, compared to 455 last year.</p>

<p>Furda said he thought Penn “went out a little too heavy” with the waitlist last year, explaining the reason for decreasing the size this year. The waitlist is a way to “send a signal that you’ve done everything right” to a student, he said, but there simply isn’t enough room for everyone.</p>

<p>In comparing Penn’s numbers to those of other institutions, Furda explained that the numbers depend on what he called a college’s “waitlist philosophy.” Penn’s waitlist is a way to still accept students if others choose not to enroll, as well as a means to acknowledge an applicant’s accomplishments.</p>

<p>Educational consultant and admissions strategist Steven Goodman called waitlists colleges’ “insurance policies,” since they can accept students at any point in the summer to fill up empty spots.</p>

<p>As well as being beneficial to colleges, Goodman said waitlists also benefit the students if they are “psychologically prepared” for possibly having to change their plans or be rejected.</p>

<p>Goodman said the increase seen in waitlists at most colleges is a result of a highly competitive year, which means “yields will be very unpredictable.” He said he does not believe that more students will decline spots on the waitlist given the increased numbers, even though the chances of getting off of the list are reduced.</p>

<p>His advice to high school seniors is to “take an offer and stay on the waitlist, though percentage of acceptances will go down.”</p>

<p>Wharton freshman Fred Law, who was waitlisted at Penn and several peer schools, said he stayed on the list because Penn had always been his top choice.</p>

<p>“I found out in mid-May,” he said. “I expected the decision to come later so it was enough time.”</p>

<p>Even if he had seen an increases in waitlists comparable to this year’s, Law said his decision would have been the same.</p>

<p>“An increase would have been slightly worrying ... I would have stayed on the waitlist regardless,” he said.

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<p>Penn</a> waitlists over 3,000 | The Daily Pennsylvanian</p>

<p>Last year, with about 3,500 applicants waitlisted, Penn ended up accepting fewer than 100 from the waitlist:</p>

<p>Waitlist</a> and transfer acceptances, yield rate see decline | The Daily Pennsylvanian</p>

<p>Any idea/educated guess on how many will choose to stay on the waitlist?</p>

<p>not a hopeful news~ :(</p>

<p>100/3500=~2.9% acceptance rate.
At least that’s better than Cornell’s 0% acceptance rate.</p>

<p>That’s under the assumption that everyone took their spot on the waitlist… Let’s say that 1500 applicants stayed on, then that would be 200/1500=~13.33%? That’s just a really rough estimate but at this stage, it can’t hurt to be hopeful right?</p>

<p>^ I doubt that they’ll admit 200 from the waitlist. They admitted less than 100 from the waitlist last year, 170 in 2008, and only 65 in 2007:</p>

<p>[Waitlist</a> and transfer acceptances, yield rate see decline | The Daily Pennsylvanian](<a href=“http://www.thedp.com/article/waitlist-and-transfer-acceptances-yield-rate-see-decline]Waitlist”>http://www.thedp.com/article/waitlist-and-transfer-acceptances-yield-rate-see-decline)</p>

<p>Of course, it’s always possible, but not likely.</p>

<p>I was one of the ones placed on the waitlist. oh well, Penn was my first choice. :/</p>

<p>^ SAME this was pretty heartbreaking to read.
what are you doing besides writing a letter? Im getting a rec from an alum but it wont have lots of pull…</p>

<p>I was placed on the waitlist in 2008, and I assumed this meant a rejection because I knew the acceptance rate was low (how low it was, I had no idea until just now when I calculated the waitlist 2008 acceptance rate to be 170/2300 = 7.4%).</p>

<p>Here’s my story:</p>

<p>On the Friday of the first week of May in 2008, I was sitting in class when I received a notice to see my counselor ASAP. So, I went to see my counselor and she asked me if I had applied to UPenn, because a lady from there just called a few minutes ago to ask for me. I told my counselor that I had been waitlisted, and she suggested that maybe they’re calling to tell me I got in. The lady (admissions officer) had left a number, so together with my counselor I called her back. After a few rings, we reach her voice mail, so we leave a message. After a few minutes of talking with my counselor, I’m ready to leave when we receive a phone call.</p>

<p>Admissions officer: Hello
Me: Hi, how are you doing?
Officer: Great thanks. I’m calling because you sent in a reply saying you wanted to be placed on the waitlist. I was just wondering if you still wished to remain on the waitlist?
Me: Yes, definitely (at this point I was a bit disappointed since I thought I would find out about the decision)
Officer: Great, we’re actually about to review your application right now. We’ll let you know in 2-3 days about the result.</p>

<p>Later that day, I checked my email at school, and came across an email titled “CLASS OF 2012” from the admissions officer I just spoke with. Since she told me it would be 2-3 days until I would hear whether or not I got in, I opened the email thinking this was one of those “confirmation” emails to confirm my status on the waitlist. Well, after reading the email a few times, it finally dawned on me that I had been accepted off the waitlist!</p>

<p>So looking back, this is like a Cinderella story for me. I never sent in any additional materials like recommendations to improve my chances (never occurred to me, and I don’t know if it really helps), and never got any phone calls besides the one I mentioned above. I wonder what it was that ultimately swayed the decision in my favor… did the admissions officer talk to my counselor during the first phone call? What did they talk about, given that my counselor had probably left her contact details on the letter of recommendation she wrote for me? Was it the “yes, definitely” that I said to the officer which conveyed my “strong interest in attending Penn”? I suppose I will never know.</p>

<p>So the moral of my story is… prepare yourself mentally in the event that you don’t get in (I had already accepted my spot at the University of Toronto when Penn called), but don’t give up your hopes! It is possible that even the littlest of things could sway the decision in your favor and you really never know. Granted, I was a little pessimistic because I didn’t want to increase my hopes in the event that they come crashing down on me, and I suppose because of that I had the biggest surprise of my life.</p>

<p>I wish you all the best of luck! Let me know if you get in when the news come out in May.</p>

<p>I’m not sending anything in, most definitely not sending my terrible grades.</p>

<p>I accepted my spot at Chicago. Would Penn be worth turning UofC down for?</p>

<p>Umm not at all.</p>

<p>Honorscentaur, I’d wouldn’t turn down Chicago for Penn CAS, but if it was Wharton, that’s an entirely different story. Which were you waitlisted to?</p>

<p>I got waitlisted at Wharton, which was my top choice.
But lately I’ve been reading so much about Chicago and really started to fall in love with the UofC.</p>

<p>^ It’s a phenomenal school.</p>

<p>You really can’t go wrong at EITHER place (and that includes Penn CAS :slight_smile: ).</p>

<p>If I were you, I’d be thrilled to be going to Chicago in the fall, and not even THINK about Wharton unless and until I was contacted by the Penn admissions office.</p>

<p>Don’t torture yourself with the WL. Don’t love a school that doesn’t love you back.</p>

<p>@HonorsCentaur – Im literally in THE SAME situation. Im probably going to UChicago but I would be willing to turn it down for Penn CAS even though I know U of C academics are probably better, I just feel like I fit with Penn better. However, Im going to visit U of C this Thurs and Fri so maybe that will change my mind…</p>

<p>I am also in the same situation and I accepted my offer at UofC last week. Upenn was my top choice but my first year (maybe 2nd too) at Chichago is free which makes a great offer. However, I feel like I should still write a letter to Upenn as a waitlisted applicant. Anyone else feel this way?</p>

<p>It’s weird to see pre-professional students wanting to go to UofC…</p>

<p>What do you mean?</p>

<p>What a scam. They accepted 3830 and waitlisted 3000? To fill a class of 2420 they need to “hold on” to 6830? That’s just playing with people. How embarrassing.</p>