<p>hmm… I think we actually had a kid at the RTC (residential treatment center) where I work go to Tranquility Bay prior to coming to where I am.
That paragraph and the videos at <a href=“http://www.tbfight.com%5B/url%5D”>www.tbfight.com</a> are interesting. Much of it is definitely child abuse. Albeit, certain things such as the “no private/alone time” aspect are pretty standard (i.e., in an RTC, you aren’t going to get unsupervised time because the law demands you be supervised 24/7).
Despite that single similarity, I was pretty surprised by the restraints and many of the other aspects. For instance, the restraints given are illegal in most states (hence why these programs are outside the U.S.). Here in CO, we must immediately report any restraint over 15 minutes in length and give strong evidence of why the restraint lasted so long.</p>
<p>Yes they are criminal cases. </p>
<p>They were kept in cages etc.</p>
<p>They had a girl kill herself at TB in 2001.</p>
<p>They told her parents she slipped and fell.</p>
<p>Compare what they describe and show in those videos to the restraints common in legal and state-funded (albeit private) RTCs for youth, such as the video here: [url=<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a1Eyh3_0n8]YouTube”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a1Eyh3_0n8]YouTube</a> - tracie’s roommate let us restrain him.<a href=“this%20TCI%20restraint%20is%20performed%20awfully%20but%20at%20least%20it%20shows%20the%20basic%20method”>/url</a>. Notice that in this case, the “client” is being trapped only by the arms. There is no pressure placed on the back as that could lead to asphyxiation and the pressure placed on the arms is used only to make the person feel secure (and prevent the person from fighting back) and is used in such a way as to minimize pain or discomfort. Those are among the requirements for physical management of children in the United States. Any unnecessary deviation from approved measures can quickly lead to child abuse charges for staff in RTCs based in the US.</p>
<p>If you can’t control your child except to send them to these prisons, then you’re not ready to be a parent and should have never had kids.</p>
<p>…We require licenses for cars and businesses…</p>
<p>…And it takes 8 years of education beyond high school to be a doctor, 7 to be a lawyer…</p>
<p>…Yet what’s required to become a parent?!</p>
<p>At the same time, there ARE kids who are total terrors…usually it’s because of prior abuse, neglect, etc. or other family-related factors, but the fact is that these kids ARE extremely difficult to help… which is usually the result of something the parents did in the first place!</p>
<p>this is child abuse and is ****ing disgusting</p>
<p>Sorry to bump up this thread after three months, but one note:</p>
<p>A friend I met online will be going there in fall. I read the Chronicle article before I saw this thread, and was appalled that he is actually excited to go. Apparently this school costs only 7K including room and board, and is the only school he applied to.</p>
<p>He was homeschooled…not allowed to go on dates, etc. So maybe he will fit in nicely. As for me…ugh.</p>
<p>You might want to strongly warn against going as Pensacola isn’t accredited – should he choose to transfer, he’ll lose a lot of credits and there are a lot of companies, should he graduate, who won’t recognize a degree from there.</p>
<p>how do they make good christian marriages with 0 interaction between men and women?</p>
<p>why do women need to go there if they’re going to become good christian homebuilders?</p>
<p>This college is against everything that is human. What the **** are parents doing sending their kids to this place?</p>
<p>Does anyone else think it would be really, really fun take a few science classes at PCC? </p>
<p>I’d end up being expelled for making too many eye babies in one day >.></p>
<p>galoisen, i think you need to check your logic. most of your examples, and most examples of evolutionary theory, can be explained using social factors. or instance, your “scientific” kin genetic theory about why there are more homosexuals among the upper educated classes can just as easily be explained by social factors, such as people who are highly educated study at colleges where the environment is much more open and accepting, and where being gay is often not only accepted, but even celebrated. this can explain why there are more gays among the educated, professional class. likewise, social/environemntal factors can explain several other of our “evolutionary” evidence. the hypocrisy on this thread is unbelievable. evolution is just a theory, and if you actually did some reading on it, you would know that there are a lot of inconsistencies and contradictions in the theorty, and that there is arguably as much evidence against it as there is for it. i’m not saying that many religious pple aren’t hypocrits, because that wouldn’t be true. but peeple like you are no better, so don’t pretend to be.</p>
<p>no, evolution is about as proven as gravity. </p>
<p>your point about homosexuality in upper classes is correct, though.</p>
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<p>I suggest you read up on the scientific definition of a theory, as opposed to the social and colloquial definition of a theory. Here are some other notable theories:</p>
<p>Germs
Thermodynamics
Atoms</p>
<p>From the United States National Academy of the Sciences, via Wikipedia:
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<p>This reminds me of jesus camp!
So creepy…</p>
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<p>Okay, then explain them to me. Evolutionary theory has a concrete basis in multivariable math – have you gone to your library and attempted to look at the sheer amount of mathematically-heavy books on it? In contrast, religious arguments are almost never sophisticated.</p>
<p>A “social factor” is an inadequate explanation for several reasons. For one, I’m not talking about being “out” – e.g. self-reported homosexuality, but rather real incidences as a whole. Secondly, hostility to homosexuality may make it harder to be gay but it doesn’t necessarily discourage the incidence of homosexuality (though, selective pressures are another thing).</p>
<p>Thirdly, you must ask why homosexual behaviour could have arisen when it renders certain individuals sterile. Generally, there is some sort of benefit if it is this prevalent. Do note that among many primate species, e.g. bonobos, non-reproductive sexual behaviour is observed too. (Are you the type who’s against contraception?) Kin selection is a useful theory that works. Take the worker ant, who cannot reproduce. Why would nature produce sterile animals? That’s because the worker ant helps the queen ant, who can reproduce…and because of the strange sex determination system, the worker ant would be more related to the queen ant’s offspring than any of its own offspring. </p>
<p>Fourthly, you clearly ignored the counterintuitive result for bisexuality, which tends to be correlated with a lower IQ score. The educated classes are more accepting about that too – and yet why do we observe that bisexuals tend to be more uneducated on average? That falsifies your “social” hypothesis.</p>
<p>I did not take the time to read all of the posts before I took the liberty of telling my story to you all about this school. I went as a high school student but was a boarder on the college campus and had to abide by the rules of the college students. Not only were most of the rules ridiculous they were borderline scary when you thought about the end results. Things such as girls had to wear panty hose to dinner every night and even in our dorms you couldnt leave the room in shorts that were too tight or not below the knee (think culottes). I had disney soundtracks taken from me and I was written up for having them because they were secular. In church, which is required and checked by having to scan a student ID, males and females cannot hold the same hymnal since the hands may infact touch. there are a whole list of these kind of rules. My story though is as follows:</p>
<p>I went home one weekend and took a friend with me. She drank and got to know one of my male friends well…if you catch what I’m saying. Well, she went back and told everyone what she had done and that she was in love blah blah blah. I got called out of class and immediately went into “shadow” phase. I was not allowed to call my mother, she was not allowed to speak to me when she called. They placed me in another dorm where she could not find me, with a floor leader I had never met. I spent 2 days this way until I met with the discipline board who asked me if I would promise them I would never touch another drop of alcohol. (I had tasted a drink that my friends had made…one sip…it was HORRID!) I suppose I could have sat there and lied but being 17 I was a little fiesty and refused to box myself in to any corner. I told them that I may be at a wedding one day and there may be wine and I would want some. So, I was immediately released from their campus. I am not allowed to go on the campus (this happened over 15 yrs ago!!) to this day. I also found out that the floor leader I lived with on a normal basis-it is required of all high school boarders-was told to lie to my mom about knowing my whereabouts or risk expulsion herself. when the school was pressed about keeping me from my mom they pulled out the papers she signed and in the midst of the admittance pack there was a small section worded in “lawyer talk” that basically said my mom was signing away her rights to me to the school… I will say it was a very good academic setting for me. I went from failing to having a 4.2 Most of the teachers at the high school seemed to truly care about the students but the college is full of right wing fundamentalist who are borderline or full blown “crazies”</p>
<p>I think you have to be full blown crazy to actually agree to go to the school in the first place.</p>
<p>life must be so dull at this school…</p>
<p>Look, I’m a Christian. But this just don’t make any sense. All this banning, expelling, for what?!
The ADULTS are just that…adults. They are going to have to make mistakes. That doesn’t mean taking sin openly, but they should know the more they restrict them, the more they’re gonna want to rebel. </p>
<p>You need balance. You should be able to shake hands of the other sex. Same with the elevators and stairways. Chaperons are creepy. This is not no middle school dance. </p>
<p>And the accreditation thing is scary. I feel bad for these kids.</p>