People wth personality disorders/mental illnesses - represent!

<p>ryan2288 and funkyfunnybunny,</p>

<p>Despite the initial sharp response, I do appreciate your posts--they're thought-provoking, and it's interesting to see what people think.</p>

<p>I don't think the word "disease" should be tossed around in this context, as if depression were a case of the flu; I personally prefer "disorder". The semantics aren't of vital importance, but I think there's a distinction.</p>

<p>I'll use my own experience as an example since it's easiest to analyze, even if it means I have to be more candid than I'd like to be.</p>

<p>I had a happy childhood until I was about nine years old and my family moved from one European country to another, where we spent the worst three years of my life. I won't elaborate, but it involved isolation, insults, and sexual slurs during what can only be described as target practice. While my parents fought at home, interrupted every few weeks for a business trip, I read my books and picked up a nasty little habit--cynicism. By the time we moved again, I had no faith in people, a fact that interfered somewhat with my ability to make friends. I started scratching up my wrists and tearing off the scabs, and found quiet enjoyment in high places with railings (I didn't trust myself to go near ones without barriers). I wrote bad poetry. I did all the stupid things that you're supposed to.</p>

<p>I don't want to talk about that part because that's not where I am anymore, and I haven't been in years. The point I'm trying to make, though, is that once you stop trusting it's awfully hard to start again, and if you've only ever had dysfunctional relationships the healthy ones don't come easily to you. When you've been told that you're worthless enough times you start to actually believe it.</p>

<p>I've grown so cautious that I think my own friends hate me secretly. I still get upset when they talk about me behind my back even though "everybody does it; you're overreacting". I hurt everyone before they hurt me first, because I'm so scared that they'll leave. </p>

<p>More than anything, that makes me sad.</p>

<p>Depression, in that case, is a symptom of a deeper problem--trust issues--caused by earlier experiences. The real problem is the inability to form a stable, mutual relationship, and that is what actually causes the depression. </p>

<p>I'm a supporter of cognitive therapy because it helps the patient face his own issues, more so than delegating the task to a chemical agent. I don't know enough about antidepressants to speak with authority on this point, but it seems as if medicating would address the symptom rather than the proverbial disease. I'm wary of psychiatric medication for those reasons.</p>

<p>Sorry about the long post, but this is a personal issue that I'm working on coming to terms with. "Getting out of bed and doing something about it" seems rather more intimidating when you're faced with years of ingrained thought patterns.</p>

<p>To me, a disease is a physical ailment treated with medication. A disorder is a strictly mental issue, and is rather more ambiguous. Depression is a disorder, with all the subjectivities that it entails.</p>

<p>Everyone is a little bit crazy. I bottle up rage. Tough it out! Be a man.</p>

<p>thats the spirit AIM!</p>

<p>disregard......</p>

<p>ryan2288: I didn't specify any one type of treatment for the "disorder" category; that is why it is ambiguous. [url="<a href="http://scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa011&articleID=000560D5-7252-12B9-9A2C83414B7F0000%22%5DHere%5B/url"&gt;http://scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa011&articleID=000560D5-7252-12B9-9A2C83414B7F0000"]Here[/url&lt;/a&gt;] is an article about cognitive therapy as used to treat ADHD.</p>

<p>edit: I didn't realize you need to sign up to read the full article (I already have a subscription), but the first part makes its point well enough.


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To me, a disease is a physical ailment treated with medication. A disorder is a strictly mental issue, and is rather more ambiguous. Depression is a disorder, with all the subjectivities that it entails

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<p>I really don't care what you call it. Either way, we ARE treating depression with medication, and according to YOUR definition, it's a supposed "disease" as well. Ugh.</p>

<p>Thisyearsgirl, I'm really sorry that you had to go through that. Life is hard, I know. A lot of people have to go through really difficult situations, but that doesn't make it any easier nor does it make any more right. I just point it out because, as sad as it is, situations like yours are not uncommon.</p>

<p>However, is anybody else surprised by the fact that depression is an epidemic in the United States, and really no where else? We have the highest standard of living, one of the lowest percentages of people living in poverty, etc. etc. Whether you consider depression a disease or a disorder, does it not seem strange that it recognizes geographical borders?</p>

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according to YOUR definition, it's a supposed "disease" as well

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I never said that. I deliberately did not specify a treatment for disorders, because they can be approached from more than one viewpoint. Personally, I favor therapy, but medication seems to be the most common route.

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is anybody else surprised by the fact that depression is an epidemic in the United States, and really no where else?

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Do you have statistics to support that? Anecdotal evidence suggests to me that this is not the case, but I'm aware that doesn't count for much. Perhaps it is overmedication that is the epidemic, not depression in itself.</p>

<p>I apologize for writing what I did in the other post; it's tangential and irrelevant to the argument. I didn't mean to sound melodramatic, and I'm certainly not looking for pity.</p>

<p>you dont know what kind of pain thisyearsgirl has been through! Stop with all of your hateful comments! Poor poor thisyearsgirl. Sorry, just kidding.</p>

<p>ryan, it's a shame I can't slap you from here.</p>

<p>I will pretend like you did... ouch!</p>

<p>Did CC'rs develop these disorders after or before high school?</p>

<p>I had severe depression from 6th-8th grade (people thought i was suicidal) and i had EDNOS.</p>

<p>And they all stopped after High School.</p>

<p>High school was the greatest thing that ever happened to me.</p>

<p>Now i'm only a little bit ADD, becuase i get too distracted at home to a point where i have to do homework at starbucks every night to keep myself from being distracted.</p>

<p>prolixity: For me, things got gradually worse through 8th grade (at which point I was suicidal); after that it's been winding down to become sort of precariously "fine".</p>

<p>On a different note, I agree with you that working at Starbucks is surprisingly productive.</p>

<p>A lot of mental illnesses start arising in early adult years. (I'm mostly referring to things like bipolar and schizophrenia.) </p>

<p>I have no clue about EDs and depression.</p>

<p>The library is the best place to do homework without being distracted. The Starbucks around here are way too busy. Whenever I have a major test I go to the library to force myself to study.</p>

<p>I think the library is too quiet -- it makes me tense and easily distracted. The soft music and background conversations at Starbucks actually makes it easier for me to focus. I have a theory that it keeps the superficial part of my attention span busy with blocking out the noise, allowing the "deeper" part to concentrate on my work without being interrupted.</p>

<p>You see I would be too interested in other conversations... I need the quiet or sometimes I will bring my mp3 player and listen to some relaxing music while i study. Either way it works, but conversations in the background kill my concentration.</p>

<p>I'd get distracted at libraries and start looking around and checking out books instead of doing my homework. =) bookworm status, represent!</p>

<p>I do the same... and then realize I've got 3+ prep books for whatever subject tests, fiske's guide, and every other book in the "classics" section. -_- OT: Lemony Snicket is fun, which is a word that means "a source of enjoyment, amusement, or pleasure".</p>

<p>Generalized Anxiety Disorder/Depression. loads of fun.</p>