<p>Hey, I was just wondering if anyone had a number (or close estimate) for the number of people rejected with a 2300+ on the SAT I (regardless of ECs and essays) or more specifically (if possible) the percent rejected with a 2300+ on the SAT I and 3.9+ (or so) GPA ~ top 5% of the class?</p>
<p>-Thanks</p>
<p>No such official published datum exists, as far as I know.</p>
<p>A relative of mine does interviews for Columbia. When he brought his son in for a tour, they bragged that they only accept about 1 in 3 students with perfect ACT/SAT I’s.</p>
<p>Their point was pretty much they care more about what you did than the grades you got, and they like to see other factors as well–such as demonstrated interest in the school, great answers to their questions, and etc.</p>
<p>I do have a friend with a 36, 2240, Top 5%, with at least two big-time ECs, and a legacy, who was waitlisted there. They really put a lot of stock into the essays and question responses, I think.</p>
<p>Yield protection, yield protection.</p>
<p>It’s not possible to find a statistic, but even if it was, it wouldn’t be terribly helpful. GPA is ridiculously subjective since it’s all contextual (how do you compare a mediocre GPA in tough school to a “stellar” GPA in a crappy one?) and Columbia admissions has repeatedly indicated that standardized test scores are not privileged when evaluating applicants (and their admitted students’ SAT numbers bear this out). Plenty of people apply to Columbia with perfect scores and are not chosen. This is because Columbia is really looking for much more than just perfect scores. As kwu says, one of the things they’re looking for is students who will actually matriculate to Columbia!</p>
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That’s a half truth from Columbia admissions. As kwu has already stated, protecting yield is a major consideration for the Columbia adcoms. Also, I seriously doubt Columbia accepts 1/3 perfect SATers.</p>
<p>All top schools do this. It’s not unique to Columbia. Every year you read about how many perfect SAT scorers and valedictorians Harvard and Princeton reject as well. Schools are looking beyond these two metrics. They will certainly give you a competitive advantage, but it’s not going to guarantee you admission to any of these schools.</p>
<p>Let’s take SEAS for example,</p>
<p>If you take a look at the 2014 ED thread, most people with 2250-2300+ and good SAT scores were accepted at SEAS.</p>
<p>If you take a look at the 2014 RD thread, most people who applied with the same stats were waitlisted at SEAS.</p>
<p>Why? To protect yield rate. Columbia knows that most people who applied to SEAS RD would pick another school like MIT, if they were accepted there that is. However, if you apply ED Columbia knows for sure that if accepted you have to attend and also know for a fact that Columbia is your first choice.</p>
<p>i’m pretty sure no such statistic exists, but i can say that i was one of them. 2350 SAT, 3.92 GPA, top 5% and rejected to CC RD. these numbers aren’t everything!!</p>
<p>^I was one of em too. 2370SAT, 4.0GPA, ranked 1st…rejected. yeah, numbers definitely aren’t everything :p</p>
<p>though not columbia, i’d say these numbers are comparable when thinking about who is/isn’t admitted across a range of sat/gpa scales.</p>
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<p>Friend of my daughter accepted at Columbia with 1760 SAT and GPA of 3.0. No EC’s. Dad is a legacy…</p>
<p>This girl I know got into Brown and Yale SCEA but was rejected from Harvard with a 3.97 and a 2370</p>
<p>**She got into Brown PLME</p>
<p>I’m a member of that club. 2330 SAT, 96 UW GPA (99 weighted) ranked 5 out of 400. Even applied ED. Oh well, wasn’t meant to be.</p>
<p>Did you get in anywhere else?</p>
<p>Yeah, quite a few places. I’m nearly as in love with NYU as I am with Columbia, and I got in there, but my financial aid is crap, so I won’t be attending.</p>
<p>haha aww i’m sorry! ehh I’m from NY so those schools arent exactly my top choices!
they dont even have a campus! well i’m sorry you can’t be attending… i wish you the best of luck in finding a great school!</p>
<p>Copy pasted this post from another decisions thread (Stanford), if my stats help. The admissions process is really quite arbitrary, and many deserving people didn’t get into their top choices, whereas many others somehow got their way in. I’m just thankful I got into where I got into, and I’m counting my blessings. </p>
<p>Decision: Waitlisted</p>
<p>Objective:</p>
<ul>
<li>SAT I (breakdown): 2380 (800 M, 790 W, 790 CR, one sitting)</li>
<li>ACT: none</li>
<li>SAT II: 790 & 800 Math II, 800 US History, 760 and 800 World History</li>
<li>Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.96 UW / 4.79 W</li>
<li>Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): 2/750</li>
<li>AP (place score in parenthesis): 20 classes taking/taken, 5 5’s and 4 4’s</li>
<li>IB (place score in parenthesis): none</li>
<li>Senior Year Course Load: AP Eng Lit, AP Human Geo, AP Enviro Sci, AP Bio, AP Art History, AP Macroeconomics, AP Microeconomics, AP Comparative Politics, AP U.S. Politics</li>
<li>Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): If a Gold in NorCal Science Olympiad State Finals Experimental Design, three Bronzes in other events count. Bronze Superdecathlete (score of 8000 or so) in Acadeca this year.</li>
</ul>
<p>Subjective:</p>
<ul>
<li>Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): Science Olympiad for 4 years, 4 years in Academic Decathlon, 2 years in Cross Country, 2 years in Tennis, ASB District Board Representative</li>
<li>Job/Work Experience: none</li>
<li>Volunteer/Community service: Key Club International Trustee, Key Club International Leadership Committee Co-Chairman, Key Club Home Club President, Home Club Vice President, over 500 hours of community service completed.</li>
<li>Summer Activities: two community college summer school classes, COSMOS summer program at UC Davis, Key Club International Convention, Key Club International Leadership Training</li>
<li>Essays: My personal statement was great, my stanford essays were probably average.</li>
<li>Teacher Recommendation: “Once in a career student” and “Best student I’ve ever seen” kind of stuff</li>
<li>Counselor Rec: Have had a good relationship with my counselor for all four years. She calls me the “phenomenon” jokingly since Freshman year, and thinks very highly of me.</li>
<li>Additional Rec: none</li>
<li>Interview: none</li>
</ul>
<p>Other</p>
<ul>
<li>Applied for Financial Aid?: No</li>
<li>Intended Major: International Relations and Affairs</li>
<li>State (if domestic applicant): CA</li>
<li>Country (if international applicant): USA</li>
<li>School Type: large public school</li>
<li>Ethnicity: Asian</li>
<li>Gender: M</li>
<li>Income Bracket: ~110K/year</li>
<li>Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): None</li>
</ul>
<p>Reflection</p>
<ul>
<li>Strengths: School Academics, EC Academics, EC’s, Community Service</li>
<li>Weaknesses: stereotypical Asian stuff?</li>
<li>Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/rejected: I doubt it was my academic record or EC’s, but it was probably my Stanford specific essays that got me. I did not actually care much for Stanford, so I believe my “why would stanford be a good fit for you” question was probably considered by the adcoms to be pretty generic.</li>
</ul>
<p>General Comments: I’ve always thought of myself first as a person who is involved with the community, and second, if at all, as a hardcore academic. During senior year, I improved my SAT and SAT2 scores to near-perfect, so I knew they couldn’t ding me there. Before my scores came out, however, I made sure my personal statement was solid, so they couldn’t possibly ding me there.</p>
<p>If anything, the only place I could have possibly lost points in was the Stanford Supplement (shakes fist!)</p>
<p>I already got into Yale with a Likely Letter, but it would have been nice to be accepted. (Though I wouldn’t have gone) I guess somehow Stanford still managed to tell me that I wasn’t good enough for them!</p>
<p>wow, congrats! you got into H, Y, AND P?</p>