<p>Okay, I'm not sure where this thread goes under... but I was wondering if anyone know if I can petition a change of grade... The class average for a lower division history class is a C... and in my opionion, I think that is pretty low for a LOWER DIVISION course? is there any reason for me to act so wronly about this? i mean... this isnt a major class or anything, and its a normal history class.. so does anyone know if theres a way me and a few students from the class can petition our grades at a Cal State?</p>
<p>i don't think that is going to work out for u! do you have any good reason?!</p>
<p>hmmm? not really. i mean, if we get all the students in the class to do something? still wouldnt work?</p>
<p>do you go to college in cali? some california education code, which you can look up and is probably cited in your school's catalog under grade greivences or something like that, says that in the absense of bad faith, incompetence, mistake or fraud, your grade stands.</p>
<p>in general, you must first approach your instructor about the grade. and if he or she still thinks you deserve your grade, you have to appeal to some higher authority.</p>
<p>I thought a C was suppose to be an average grade and a B was above average and an A was excellent. at least in high school.</p>
<p>it is still in college lol</p>
<p>if the professor doesnt respond to your emails, what should i do? i wanted to ask about my final...</p>
<p>Why would getting every student in a class to complain about their grades do something? Under California law, a professor does not have to justify the grade they give; in fact, even if you receive all A's on the content in the course, they can still fail you, it is entirely to their discretion.</p>
<p>And secondly, if you have no legitimate reason to challenge a grade of a C, why do you think you deserve it?</p>
<p>"Under California law, a professor does not have to justify the grade they give; in fact, even if you receive all A's on the content in the course, they can still fail you, it is entirely to their discretion."</p>
<p>I'm not sure how the grading is done at CC's, but a professor cannot fail you after receiving A's on all assignments and exams at Berkeley. The only plausible way for one to get a term grade lower than the average of all grades throughout the semester is through the adverse effect of the class curve. However, there are only a few courses in which the curve works against high scorers, and even then, the curve will not drop you from an A average to an F for the entire course.</p>
<p>dbguy4eva,</p>
<p>It's definitely worth a try if there is more to it than just your feeling that the average for a lower division course should be higher than a C. There should be student advocates at your CSU that may be able to help you. Here's an analogous source from Berkeley's ASUC student advocates on grade petition:</p>
<p>I may have misstated or misread the statewide policy. But, what I was trying to say is that the method of grading or point allocation, (ie: final 40% exams 50% quizzes 10%), is to the instructors discretion; meaning that if so desired, the instructor could change the system from the final being worth 30% of one's grade to 95%.</p>
<p>i have experienced what tastybeef said.</p>
<p>i got A's on both my midterms and final and still somehow got a B. I tried email the professor, but he was long gone after grades came out and is teaching somewhere in Argentina now. ***!!</p>
<p>I've also gotten a D/C on a midterm and A on the final and somehow managed to get an A- in the class. final and midterm had the same weight.</p>
<p>subjective grading is great, isn't it?</p>
<p>im hoping my professor never emails me back.. that way i can complain and add that into my argument of how she ignores students' emails.</p>
<p>lol, i emailed my professor a bunch of times and finally, after about 4 emails he responded. didn't do much though..</p>