<p>My options are limited since I live in New Jersey and have to go out of state. I was thinking Penn State since it's close to me however it's going to cost me $40000 a year. I also don't want to work here and not have advancement options that I would in other areas. I'm really interested in working offshore if that matters. I'm thinking of ULL or NMT since their out of state costs are cheap compared to other Pet Eng schools. If Penn State is considerably better I could live with the tuition costs. What would be the best in regards to getting a job afterwards? I heard ULL was good for that since their's apparently many companies there. I'm open to all suggestions but keep in mind what I wrote. Thanks in advance. My gpa is 3.6-3.7, have yet to take the SAT and i'm a Junior in HS if it matters.</p>
<p>Marietta College in Ohio is #2 for Petroleum Engineering. WVU and Texas Tech are equally good, more affordable OOS options.</p>
<p>^LOL. Marietta College at #2? Thank you for giving me something to laugh at as I take a break from studying for finals. By the way, I’m currently in a room that has well over $100,000 worth of equipment, all donated by one of the big oil companies. Try getting that at Marietta.</p>
<p>And which college are you at?</p>
<p>The University of Oklahoma.</p>
<p>Marietta class size: 77% under 20</p>
<p>OU class size: 39% under 20</p>
<p>Apples to oranges.</p>
<p>Marietta starting salary for Petroleum Engineers: $89,000</p>
<p>Mid-career: $156,000</p>
<p>[College</a> Factual ranks Marietta Petroleum grads as top earners | The Olio](<a href=“http://news2.marietta.edu/node/10482]College”>http://news2.marietta.edu/node/10482)</p>
<p>Marietta has 1,435 students with an endowment of $61 million, for an endowment per student of $42,500.</p>
<p>OU has 30,300 students with an endowment of $823 million for an endowment per student of $27,200.</p>
<p>I will derail this thread no further. The facts have been posted.</p>
<p>From what I understand, a PetE degree isn’t necessary to work in the industry. ChemE majors are also hired. The ChemE grads from my kids’ undergrad, who want those kind of careers, find immediate employment in that industry for very high pay.</p>
<p>So, don’t limit yourself to only schools with PetE…especially if cost is a concern.</p>
<p>What are YOUR PARENTS saying about how much they’ll pay? When you say that you “could live with the tuition costs” at Penn St…what do YOU mean? Do you ( a high school student) have $160k in savings somewhere? If not, how would YOU manage the costs. YOU can’t borrow that much.</p>
<p>YOU can only borrow the following amounts:</p>
<p>frosh 5500
soph 500
jr 7500
sr 7500</p>
<p>So, unless your parents will pay or you have some big savings somewhere, cost will be a big issue. </p>
<p>That said if you have very good stats, then you could get big merit scholarships at the schools that give them (not at Penn State). Or, if your family qualifies and you have very good stats, you could get financial aid at the schools that give such.</p>
<p>How much will your parents pay each year? If you don’t know, ask them.</p>
<p>1) College Factual gets its salary data from Payscale. That is, it sources from a tiny, probably unrepresentative portion of the population and then reports the earnings as the average for graduates. According to Marietta’s own website,
From the website’s description, it seems as though $75k was the maximum salary offered. I seriously doubt that in seven years, the average salary rose by well over $15,000.</p>
<p>2)OU’s endowment is actually $[url=<a href=“http://www.normantranscript.com/x1442567335/Private-giving-to-OU-tops-194M]1.24[/url”>http://www.normantranscript.com/x1442567335/Private-giving-to-OU-tops-194M]1.24[/url</a>] billion, not $823 million. That’s on top of the federal/corporate sponsored research and gifts that do not factor into the university’s endowment figures. Also, the endowment is not spread evenly among the colleges within the university. It’s very much concentrated among a few fields, one of which is the Mewbourne College of Petroleum and Geological Engineering. </p>
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- You have me there. However, Marietta can afford smaller classes because it has a rather large reliance on adjuncts and other part time instructors (to be fair, OU does as well but to a lesser extent). Additionally, smaller class sizes may not mean that the student actually learns more. After all, the University of Phoenix proudly boasts that its average class size is 15 students. </p>
<p>4) Warblersrule, while Marietta’s numbers are high, keep in mind that it doesn’t offer students the option of changing to another engineering discipline should they decide they don’t like PetE. Additionally, it’s the only private near the East Coast to offer the major which could just mean that it attracts a number of students from OH, PA, and NY who don’t want to go South for college, but want to do PetE in a smaller school. For a school like Marietta, I don’t think the number of graduating majors indicates much about the quality of the program.</p>
<p>M2CK, are you sure they were offered the same types of jobs? I can see a ChemE being offered a refining position, but not for upstream type jobs. I could be wrong though.</p>
<p>My family isn’t rich but to get through college they would sell an asset like our extra house in Turkey. However I’m expected to pay them back for about 70% of it. I don’t want to leave college with a ton of debt which is why I was wanting lower cost schools but could afford somewhere like Penn State if it would give me a worthwhile advantage over other schools.</p>
<p>If you can score slightly above average on the SAT, ULL will offer you an OOS tuition waiver.</p>
<p>I would think that ULL or LSU would have particular ties to the offshore industry, since that is where the Louisiana oil industry is based, but other programs probably have connections to all aspects of the industry, you’ll just have to check. </p>
<p>Given the cost of LSU and ULL vs. Penn State and your desire to work offshore, I’d say go for the cheaper option. Penn State offers no benefit there.</p>
<p>I’m not trying to knock OU at all. My dad has hired great engineers from OU. Marietta is just an extremely specialized PetE school for OP to consider. It should be considered if you KNOW you want to do PetE and ONLY PetE. Total cost is $43,000. 92% of students receive grants, average grant is $17,700. 100% receive aid.</p>
<p>Marietta is a Liberal Arts College with a PetE program. Of course it’s going to have smaller classes than a big state school.</p>
<p>I got $833 bil from USNews. I’m sure both schools provide great opportunities for PetE engineers. As the only engineering major, PetEs at Marietta will get all the opportunities and resources.</p>
<p>“From what I understand, a PetE degree isn’t necessary to work in the industry. ChemE majors are also hired. The ChemE grads from my kids’ undergrad, who want those kind of careers, find immediate employment in that industry for very high pay.”</p>
<p>Well, for downstream, sure. These are very competitive positions to get and generally a few top students from ChemE departments break in. I believe if the OPis interested in PETR Engg, He/She is interested in upstream positions (where the real money is) which take almost exclusively Petroleum Engineering/Geology Majors. It is VERY tough for a ChemE to get a job as a drilling or reservoir engineer. </p>
<p>IMO, OP, you need to get as close to the gulf as possible for jobs with supermajor oil companies.</p>
<p>In addition to waiving OOS tuition, ULL may offer additional merit money if you do pretty well on SAT/ACT. I would expect ULL to be more generous on that front than LSU.</p>
<p>An advantage of a University versus a very specialized excellent school/program is that you are more likely to encounter depts/programs/courses that complement PetE- for example, earth and mineral sciences/geology, business schools large enough to have classes/profs that study the economics of energy extraction, materials sciences faculty that are interested in developing materials for PetE.
Before you get set on off-shore extraction, have you ever been on a rig? Out to sea?</p>
<p>Overall, I’d say the programs near the Gulf would seem logical, but Marietta has found a niche and is very, very successful with its Petroleum Engineering program. Students need to know that’s what they want to study because Marietta isn’t very well-known for anything else though (it’s a decent school for B students outside of the PetE).
Anyway, OP is a junior: exploring all programs of interest, checking for opportunities for experience/internships etc., then applying to 5-6 programs to compare financial aid would make the most sense, I think.</p>
<p>A&M petroleum engineering starting average salary is $92k, Median is $95k:</p>
<p><a href=“http://careercenter.tamu.edu/guides/reports/[/url]”>http://careercenter.tamu.edu/guides/reports/</a></p>
<p>Following up on Mom2CollegeKid’s point and using a Ch-E degree to get a Petroleum industry job:</p>
<p>South Dakota School of Mines and Technology may suit your academic and career interests. SDSM&T does not offer a Petroleum Engineering major, but you could supplement a Chemical Engineering degree with a minor in either the Geology or Geological Engineering departments at SDSM&T, or major in Geological Engineering outright. I’ll take a guess that with such a background you might be able to get your foot in the door with an oil/gas/energy company, more than a few of whom already look for new recruits at SDSM&T.</p>
<p>I suggest SDSM&T to you because it has a reputation for rigorous academics and for producing outstanding engineers. Moreover, it is a bargain tuition-wise. It’s a small school that attracts students from far flung parts of the nation, and employers too! We know kids from New Mexico, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and Virginia who attend SDSM&T.</p>