PhD production among Ivies, Stanford, MIT, and Caltech 1995-2006

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PhD production means a great deal. Part of the meaning is clear: it reflects the ability of the student body to pursue advanced work and it reflects the ability of the faculty to prepare students for advanced work. Beyond that, differences in PhD production might be due to the blend of majors offered. For some majors the PhD is not the ultimate, terminal degree. Engineers can make a good living with a masters degree, for example. Differences in PhD production might also be due to differences in campus "culture?". Some campuses are more intellectual; others are more career-oriented, pre-professional, pragmatic.

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<p>Haven't we debated the relevance of the PhD production ad nauseam on this board? Before this latest recompilation of the data, College Confidential has been blessed with Interestddad unending efforts to show the very same metric. </p>

<p>While most everyone does --or should-- recognize that the metric is valuable to measure the success of a particular school in preparing its students for one of the careers that require a PhD, it is also ... just that. And that "just that" is NOT a measure of excellence that should be used to COMPARE or rank schools. One of the main reasons that the yardstick is a poor or incomplete one is that the annual PhD production represents a rather meaningless percentage of all US graduates. In addition, as CollegeHelp recognized many fields do not consider a PhD the most appropriate terminal degree. Medicine, law, business are just a few fields that come to mind. </p>

<p>Lastly, if we were to accept the rankings of UG schools and their subsequent production of PhD, should we not also extend the "scope" of the polled schools and include the ... foreign schools that send "quite a few" students to our universities to pursue a master's or a PhD degree --and enjoy years the years of indentured servitude that comes with the privilege.</p>

<p>xiggi-
"indentured servitude"???
Are you trying to start a revolution? Doctoral students of the world, unite!! :)</p>

<p>collegehelp, idad-</p>

<p>CC PhD data posters of the world, untie!! ;)</p>

<p>We will not be fettered!</p>

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Doctoral students of the world, unite!!

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Can't -- I don't have time. ;)</p>