<p>If I understand your situation, you’re a current college student in business school somewhere thinking about transferring to either UMichigan or NYU. Forget NYU as it is way too expensive for an undergraduate degree (NYU offers little financial aid beyond loans). Debating which is the better for an undergraduate degree in Philosophy is ridiculous as both are excellent, but only graduate degrees matter in that discipline.</p>
<p>“Except by taking philosophy you aren’t getting many skills that are directly real world skills you could use in your career.”</p>
<p>Well, again, not sure if you under stand what philosophy studies are? I am not trying to acquire delusional philosophical wisdom, and ponder questions that do not have any relevance toward the real world. Philosophy in this case is basically a logic train, and a train of thought. It will give me the skills I will need to think for analytical jobs which do encounter quite a bit of abstract logic. </p>
<p>I also do believe that you will not get any real world skills when you leave. I mean, someone with an anthropology major can be taught by Goldman Sachs how to use excel, or an accounting firm can teach some with a sociology degree, to understand cashflow statements. But the learning part is the problem, not everyone can be taught? Why, because some people lost or have never had a critical thinking ordeal in there class/work/life. in many cases the material that you are being taught has been pur</p>
<p>"…it not seems that quite a few people on this forum, and in personal life are saying an education (a good education) does not come cheap…"</p>
<p>Although a good education does not come cheap, you do not want to get into too much debt. Up to $20 or even $30 k of debt when you graduate is manageable. More than that will be too much of a burden.</p>
<p>"…am trying to get the f0ck out, before I go crazy with all the sheep around me hahah."</p>
<p>I realize the youth often look to escape their home, but having lived in some major cities around the world (Paris, London, Berlin, DC, San Francisco, Dubai etc…), I can confidently say that Ann Arbor holds its own very nicely, at least in terms of intellectual vitality and sophisitication. I visit Ann Arbor every chance I get and would move there in a heartbeat.</p>
<p>"…hopefully michigan will look at me as human, not a gpa machine…"</p>
<p>As opposed to the other 3,000-4,000 transfer applicants who are what? not human? 
Needless to say, all applicants will be approached as humans, the main criteria Michigan relies on to make its admissions decisions, particularly in the case of transfer applicants, is GPA. Sure your essays, extra curricular activities and standardized test scores (if you wish to submit them) will play a role, but the GPA will be weighed heaviest.</p>
<p>I just ment in general, like, my GPA was effected by what has been going on in my life (family weight, physical and mental things) that have brought my grades to As and Bs. So hopefully they will look at other things that may have been the reason why my gpa is what it is</p>
<p>Well you definitely sound like a philosophy major. I would make sure to not get in debt with this degree though.</p>
<p>Everybody’s GPA is affected by what is going on in their lives. The excusable difference that adcomms want to know, however, is about events in your life beyond your control that have affected your grades.</p>
<p>Very true, I dont mean to sound “special” I just have a strong belief that my case maybe very unusual…BTW, switching to a more transfer type question, is it better to complete 2 years of CC THEN transfer? or complete 3 semesters? I dont understand what is the best way to accomplish the transfer scenario</p>
<p>I recommend applying in February or March as a Fall transfer applicant. I would guess that would mean you would have completed three semesters and would be enrolled in your fourth.</p>
<p>If your circumstances are indeed very unusual, you will have to communicate them well, and you will have to substantiate them. Much will depend on the nature of those special circumstances, your ability to communicate them and whether or not you can proove them. </p>
<p>Regardless of your circumstances, Michigan will want to see evidence that you can handle the academic intensity of the University.</p>
<p>you sure you want to pursue Philosphy? Your writing ability is…quite lackluster. And this is coming from an engineering student.</p>
<p>now that you mention it…I dont think I will study it. I read over what I wrote…who am I kidding…philosophy?</p>