More ugrad Prestige: UMich or NYU

<p>I was debating this with my friend. In my school NYU wins clearly, but he said his school thinks differently.</p>

<p>What is the consensus in your HS?</p>

<p>My high school would definitely say NYU, just because they don't know anything. People at my high school would say NYU is more prestigious than Columbia, that's how much they know. </p>

<p>I'd definitely go to UMich over NYU though. IMHO, it's also more prestigious.</p>

<p>i agree with you</p>

<p>UMich all the way.</p>

<p>Obviously, it depends on where in the country you are.</p>

<p>Where I live (Southern California), it's definitely Michigan and it's not even close.</p>

<p>My d. is graduating from UofM honors program and will be attending NYU grad school this fall. Her experience has been wonderful; has met people from all over the country,Big Ten sports!, had two internships in NYC, spent time abroad. It's all there and more. Don't hesitate for a moment in choosing Michigan over NYU. Ann Arbor is a great town. Lots to do, great restaurants, music....</p>

<p>U of Michigan, it's one of top 10 state u's. NYU is a second-tier private, expensive and weak except in performing and fine arts, with scattered pockets of strength in other areas. U of M is a collegiate experience. NYU is attending classes while living in the city.</p>

<p>NYU also wins (or at least ties) with UM for finance and ties for math, other than that and arts - UM wins big time.</p>

<p>Depends where you live. At home in NJ people think NYU is like a top 10 school, but I know better. It is a good school that has a few awesome programs. Michigan is much more prestigious in my eyes though.</p>

<p>My brother goes to Michigan and my sister goes to NYU. Both picked their respective universities over Georgetown, Boston College, Cornell, and Holy Cross. I think they both are very presitigious, but a definite edge to UM.</p>

<p>Data mostly drawn from USNWR</p>

<p>OBJECTIVE DATA</p>

<p>Undergraduate Enrollment:
U Michigan: 25,467 NYYU: 20,566</p>

<h1>and % of students who are in-state:</h1>

<p>U Michigan: 17,572 (69%) NYU: 7198 (35%)</p>

<p>Cost (Tuition & Fees):
U Michigan: $30,179 (OOS) NYU: $33,420</p>

<p>Graduation & Retention Rank
U Michigan: 28th NYU: 39th
-% of Students expected to graduate in 6 years:
U Michigan: 77% NYU: 85%
-% of students who do graduate in 6 years:
U Michigan: 86% NYU: 83%</p>

<p>Faculty Resources Rank:
U Michigan: 69th NYU: 28th
-% of classes with 50+ students
U Michigan: 16% NYU: 60%
-% of classes with <20 students
U Michigan: 43% NYU: 13%
-Faculty/student ratio
U Michigan: 17/1 NYU: 11/1</p>

<p>Student Selectivity Rank:
U Michigan: 22nd NYU: 35th
-Average SAT/ACT:
U Michigan: 1220-1410 NYU: 1240-1420
-% of students ranking in top 10% of high school class
U Michigan: 89% NYU: 68%
-% acceptance rate
U Michigan: 57% NYU: 37%</p>

<h1>of 1500 scorers enrolled and % of student body:</h1>

<p>U Michigan: 1645 (6%) NYU: 1891 (9%) </p>

<p>Financial Resources Rank:
U Michigan: 31st NYU: 39th </p>

<p>Alumni Giving % and Rank:
U Michigan: 15% (105th) NYU: 11% (150th)</p>

<p>SUBJECTIVE DATA</p>

<p>Peer Assessment:
U Michigan: 4.5 NYU: 3.8</p>

<p>Among academics, as measured by the subjective Peer Assessment scores, U Michigan is clearly favored over NYU as U Michigan receives a 4.5 while NYU receives but a 3.8. </p>

<p>Among the objective data, you may want to consider two truly major differences. NYU scores considerably higher for resources dedicated to faculty while U Michigan has a decided advantage among Top 10% scorers from high school. Otherwise, the quantitative discrepancies swing back and forth and neither school has a clear overall advantage.</p>

<p>Ex-PA, these two schools compare very closely. Ex-PA, U Michigan would fall from 24th to 34th in the USNWR rankings, while NYU would dip from 34th to 35th. </p>

<p>Sometimes people will judge a school's prestige by its job placement and/or grad school placement. Perhaps part of your comparison may go to the two schools' undergraduate business schools. Each places students on Wall Street-U Michigan's Ross School sends around 100 students annually (nearly 30% of Ross's class but less than 2% of U Michigan's graduating class). NYU's Stern Business School has a larger placement and alumni base on Wall Street thanks largely to its larger size, its location and its easy access to Wall Street. It is not clear what the job functions are of these graduates from U Michigan and NYU and how they compare with students from higher ranked schools. </p>

<p>In terms of law school placement, U Michigan supporters might assert a stronger reputation for their school, but the actual numbers of graduates from either school attending the very top law schools are very small. For example, there are only 5 U Michigan students now attending Yale Law School and only 3 from NYU. The story is not much different at Harvard Law where the Fall, 2006 class welcomed 23 U Michigan grads (or 0.4% of U Michigan's graduating class) and 20 from NYU (also 0.4% of the school's graduating class). By comparison, UC Berkeley sent 48, UCLA sent 39, Georgetown 32, Brigham Young 29, U Texas 27.</p>

<p>Based on the info you've just provided^ I would say go with Michigan, however I would have said NYU</p>

<p>Honestly, I think differing views on these two schools is more of a generational thing than regional. NYU was, to be blunt, pretty much garbage until the last 10 to 15 years (outside of a few programs like Stern & Tisch), when it started to became one of the popular schools for applicants. A good part of this, of course, are the fortunes of NYC rising as a whole, becoming a more liveable, vibrant place.</p>

<p>On the other hand, Michigan has been firmly entrenched amongst the "elite" universities for over a century, and in the not-so-distant past would have been considered more of a peer of say, Harvard or Chicago than schools like USC or NYU, which are more "new kids on the block," whose reputations haven't really caught up with the statistical qualifications of their students body. </p>

<p>I'm not saying that NYU isn't a great school, but reputations die hard, and you also have to take into account the perspective of people who will be being doing the hiring or grad school admissions selections. By and large, these are people much older than yourselves. They are not necessarily going to always be following the trends of which schools are "hot or not," and I think this is one case where the USNWR peer assessment schools have some validity and usefulness.</p>