Please chance a very worried Int'l for ED?

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<p>Hi,I'm an International Student from India applying this year.I want to apply to Dartmouth ED.I'd be very very grateful if you could tell me where I stand. </p>

<p>SAT 1-Taken this October.I know I'll get atleast a 2100,I cannot say for certain anything beyond that.Also,please don't tell me you cannot accurately chance without it because that would be of no help to me.The above score is the minimum I can get.(My practice tests were in the range 2100-2260.I hope this helps).</p>

<p>SAT 2- Chem-750. Taking PCM in November.</p>

<p>Class Rank- Our school ranks in a different way,but it's top 2-4/250 every year.</p>

<p>Senior Year Courseload- International Curriculum.I'll just say it's the toughest available.</p>

<p>EC's,etc.</p>

<p>1) Table Tennis
15 hrs/wk;9 months/yr;6 yrs(2005,2006,2007,2008,2009,2010) </p>

<p>•Team Captain-5 years
•Selected to represent Delhi state in Inter Command Air Force Sports Championship(National Level).</p>

<p>•(National level)- Gold Medallist at Inter Command Air Force Sports Championship-2007 in Delhi; featured in newspaper
•(National Level) Silver Medallist Inter Command Air Force Sports Championship-2008 in Punjab; featured in national news channel.
•Selected to represent Delhi state in 2009 in Gujarat-tournament cancelled.
•Winner for past 5 years in regional tournaments held by Delhi School Sports & Activities Board.
•Awarded Outstanding Girl In Table Tennis Award-2007,2008,2009.</p>

<p>2) Table Tennis Coaching
10 hrs/wk;3 months/yr;2 yrs (2009,2010) </p>

<p>Conducted Morning Coaching for Junior Team members/team hopefuls(20 students) during Summer Break.
Conducted Morning coaching for Junior Team members/team hopefuls(20 students) during school year.</p>

<p>3) Interact Club(Under Rotary Club of Delhi Southend)
4 hrs/wk;9 months/yr.;2 yrs (2009,2010) </p>

<p>•Vice-President
•Awarded Rs. 1,00,000 by Ministry Of Environment and TERI due to our environmental efforts.-2010</p>

<p>•Was in charge of utilising aforementioned money to conduct competitions for 2880+ students and to raise environmental awareness. Featured in National Newspaper-Times Of India, Navbharat Times, Jansatta -2010
•Was in charge of doing Mapping of whole school region and surrounding regions -2009
•In charge of Fundraising for Rotary Polio Villages. Raised Rs. 5000+. Visited said villages to oversee distribution of funds.
•2nd prize-Made short film on pollution of the Yamuna River. Aired on television(NDTV Metro Nation)-2008
•Raised Rs. 4000+ for Widows of armymen.
Fundraising for FoD(Family of the Disabled) , CRY(Child Rights and You) , and HelpAge India.
Hosted Commonwealth games mascot and conducted programs about the Commonwealth games.</p>

<p>4) Tutoring
5 hrs/wk;8 months/yr;2yrs. </p>

<p>•Tutor poor neighbourhood children(8) in Science, English, Maths at very low fee. </p>

<p>5) Debate/Declamation
14 hrs/wk;6 wks/yr.6 yrs. </p>

<p>•State level-Won Declamation competition held by Ministry Of Environment and Forests.Cash prize+Research Trip to Ranthambore National Park,Rajasthan.Over 40 schools participated.-2008
•Winner school’s Swarnanda Debate-2009,2010</p>

<p>6) Bharatnatyam Dance
9 hrs/wk;All round yr;11 yrs. </p>

<p>•Disciple and student of Dr. Yamini Krishnamurthy at Yamini School of Dance, Hauz Khaz, New Delhi.
•Nritya Kasturba Award-Twice. This is awarded to very select students in the institute.
•Performed in many Yamini Dance School displays.</p>

<p>7) School Editorial Board
3.5 hrs/wk;All round year;4 yrs(Class 9-12)</p>

<p>•Co-Editor.
•Articles/poems regularly published.</p>

<p>8) Dramatics
25 hrs/wk12 wks/yr.1 yr. </p>

<p>•State Level-2nd Prize in Dramatics competition held by SAKSOI and Dept. of Science and Tech., Govt. Of India-2008
•Lead Role-schoolproduction-Hairspray-2007</p>

<p>9) Conferences/Internships/Research trips </p>

<p>•Fully funded Research Trip to Ranthambore National Park in Rajasthan. Worked with and learnt from 4 Scientists of the Ministry of Environment and Forests for 7 days(8 hrs/day).
•Attended Workshop on Green Buildings held by Embassy of Switzerland in India-3 days-2009
•Represented school at CNDP(Coalition for Nuclear Disarmament and Peace) Conference in Delhi(my city)-2008,2009
•Selected for & attended Science Internship at Jawaharlal Nehru University,Delhi for 5 days.(8 hrs/day). </p>

<p>10) Academic Awards </p>

<p>•University of New South Wales, Australia-Awarded Distinction in English and Credit in Science in International Assesment-2007
•Chinta Gunta Endowment Fund-Scholarship for Best Student of Class 10-given to a single student every year.
•Best All Rounder Student-2007,2008,2009 for each class.
Participated in Sanskrit Olympiad and Green Oly.But then Participation hardly counts.</p>

<p>School Type- Private.Adjudged Best school in Delhi a loooong time ago.Like it matters now.
Gender-Female obviously.No guy would have the name 'perfectpixie'.
Income Bracket-Low.Shall be requiring full fin. aid.
Hooks-Not a major hook,but...maybe the income bracket?And my mom's a single parent.</p>

<p>Thank you in advance! I repeat your help would be very much appreciated and is very much required!</p>

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<p>I am normally unresponsive to chance threads, however this is the truth. No one can accurately assess your chances .It is a waste of time to speculate. Aks when you have real scores.</p>

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<p>sybbie719 - I have already told you the range of the scores I can get ie late 2100’s-early 2200’s. And I very highly doubt that it’s going to be anything different than those.</p>

<p>And I created a chance thread without knowing my scores because I’m so desperate to know where I stand before I apply ED. I shall of course be back with my Oct. scores but until then, I request the CC’ers to please assume my score to be in that range because that’ll be in the end of this month which is very late. Please judge on the basis of that and my class rank.</p>

<p>Oh and another thing I forgot to mention- SAT subj predicted test scores- 750+ (for sure) in each subject. My school courseload>>sat subj courseload and this is also after judgeing my practice tests.</p>

<p>Thanks everyone and please do help out with some solid info!</p>

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<p>You cannot say that because you most likely did not take practice test under actual test conditions. THere are students that do better than their practice test and those that do not. </p>

<p>As far as ECs are concerned, I would focus on quality vs quantity. You are in a much better postition to be involved in a few things over a sustained period of time showing where you have grown in leadership and the specific types of projects that you have taken on vs a laundry list of activities (it will look as if you have a lack of direction)</p>

<p>In another thread you wrote:</p>

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<p>Well since on of the first things a school mentions when it selects a new class in the spring is the number of applicants (and make note as to whether or not there has been an increase) and the average SAT scores (which for Dartmouth has been increasing year over year for all of the years I have been on the board), I would respectfully disagree. If you go through the ED threads, most unhooked applicants that are accepted ED round have **very high ** SAT scores.</p>

<p>You are an unhooked applicant,so a 2100-2200 may not make you competitive in the large pool of international applicants many who will present similar, better numbers than you. I think your main job should be differientating yourself from all of the other international students (and indian students) who will be applying to Dartmouth. What are you bringing to that table that is differnet/ Why should Dartmouth choose you over the ~ 16,000 applicants that will also present good grades, a high class rank and high SAT scores?</p>

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<p>Sybbie - Thanks a lot for the explanation! :slight_smile:

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<p>How do you suggest I go about doing that? My essay tries to do that, but other than that do you have any advice?

Do you have any suggestions on which EC’s I should cut out then? I’m in two minds about cutting them out as I’m getting differing opinions on that one. </p>

<p>No offense, but I still disagree about the huge importance of SAT scores. Never mind, each to his own! :)</p>

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<p>As an interntational student and who will be overrepresented in the admissions process, my advice would be not to go into this process with blinders on because you don’t agree with what is being said (no dog in this fight as my kid has already graduated). </p>

<p>Yes, while unweighted GPA (because there is already an expectation that you are taking the most rigerous courses your school offeres) and rank are two of the most important factors in the admissions process, it is not going to help your cause to show up to the table with lower SAT scores. My advice is to look at the ED thread from last cycle. that will give you an idea as to how many student with stats similar to yours were accepted during the ED round.</p>

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<p>Phew!!! Don’t you think it could be better if you could trim down some stuffs. It’s more of laundry list than of passions. Didn’t I mentioned earlier that you should explain the value of your awards? It’s hard to judge what’s the value of that Gold Medal without a brief explanation.
Do you think Dartmouth is gonna give you full aid despite those relatively low scores (compared to students with brutal competition from China and India). </p>

<p>But still, you have good chances.</p>

<p>Post this in “What are my chances” forum. That would be better.</p>

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<p>I’ve mentioned the level and name of the championship Harisheena. What else do you suggest I mention?</p>

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<p>The value of awards.</p>

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<p>I feel the list is just tooooooo long.</p>

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<p>I’ve tried to shorten it by omitting all school awards and less important awards. I’m quite frustrated with it’s length too. </p>

<p>Some more opinions would be highly welcome :)</p>

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<p>What one means by value of award:</p>

<p>Answer me which case awes you? (the difference being the value of awards)</p>

<p>1st Case - Pixie, I have been selected for a Workshop-cum-Skill Improvement Camp for brilliant chess players with Asian Champion Grand Master Surya Shekhar Ganguly. Yuppy. It’s very very competitive and believe me I feel fabulous.</p>

<p>2nd Case - Pixie, I am among the top 100 players of West Bengal State to be chosen for a Workshop-cum-Skill Improvement Camp for brilliant chess players with Asian Champion Grand Master Surya Shekhar Ganguly
o Among selected few are International Master Deep Sengupta, U-14 World Champions Diptayan Ghosh and Sayantan Das, Women International Master Saheli Barua and if that wasn’t enough - Grand Masters Dibyendu Barua and Nilotpal Das and many other eminent chess players of West Bengal.
Its a one week of mentoring program for the upcoming National Championship.</p>

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<p>This is the importance of value of awards.</p>

<p>Consider this nonsense (which is not true of my case):</p>

<p>I won a National Essay Competition and received a Gold Medal. (Insight - Organised only in two cities, four schools participated, 10 students/ school, all other schools Hindi medium except mine.)</p>

<p>lololllololololol :)</p>

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<p>Ah. Okay, I get it now. I had thought of mentioning this but then my aim of making a short resume would be shot down. The schools don’t want to see a resume of more than a page or maximum 2 pages and mine is currently at 2.5 .</p>

<p>PS-The second one def looks better.</p>

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<p>KISS your application:</p>

<p>Keep
It
Simple &
Straightforward.</p>

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<p>If you present so much information, you are gonna doze off the Ad officer.</p>

<p>OR </p>

<p>Their is a high probability that he will simply skip the resume portion.</p>

<p>Your SAT needs improvement. 2300+ for Dartmouth full ride.</p>

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<p>Thanks for you help harish :)</p>

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<p>Right. The highly corrupt, unreliable Baba Harisheena. ;)</p>

<p>Now, scoot! No spamming on my chance thread!</p>

<p>PS-In sanskrit it’s not harisheenay. Either harishay for for a name not ending with an ‘a’ or harisheenayeyy for a name ending with an ‘a’.</p>

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<p>PS-In sanskrit it’s not harisheenay. Either harishay for for a name not ending with an ‘a’ or harisheenayeyy for a name ending with an ‘a’.</p>

<p>Thank you for making me sleepy… zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz</p>

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<p>Now Go Away!! I don’t want any spamming on my thread!</p>

<p>I’d love some more opinions of other people.</p>