<p>GPA-3.31(UW) / 4.15(W).</p>
<p>SAT- Math-700, Reading-760, Writing-670
SAT MATH LEVEL 2-800</p>
<p>2014 USAMO QUALIFIER- AMC 12 score 126/150, AIME score 11/15.
2014 AMC 12 Distinguished Honor Roll.
2013 ACSL ALL-STAR Outstanding Achievement Award in Intermediate Division
2014 EXPLORAVISION science competition Honorable Mention
2014 AP Scholar With Distinction
2013 ARML B-Team member of Maryland's Montgomery County
2012 ACSL ALL-STAR School Team Member </p>
<p>You can definitely get in CoE. </p>
<p>GPA is far too low for UMich while SAT is below admission average. You should probably retake SAT as your Math section score should be much higher. UMich CoE would be a reach for you.</p>
<p>what is the GPA and SAT average for UMich? My qualifying for the 2014 USAMO speaks much higher of my math skills than the SAT score of 700. Only 266 students in the whole of USA were invited to the USAMO in 2014 after going through the AMC 12 and AIME rounds. Of these 266, only 100 are in the same grade as mine. I mentioned the SAT score because this is the one that has the single highest composite score. I was trying to get my reading and writing score up. In the other SAT I took I had a low verbal score but my Math score was 800(800-M,570-R,580-W). AMC 12, AIME math and USAMO math are way tougher than SAT math. Please tell me what you think.</p>
<p>What is your essay about?</p>
<p>I am not sure I understand you. Are you talking about the common app essay?</p>
<p>The admission average uwGPA at UMich CoE has been at 3.9 for many years. If you look at UMich’s CDS, they put GPA as very important for admission while test scores are just important. The fact that you have a large variation in section scores between attempts indicating you have not prepared for the test thoroughly. UMich does not superscore, but they will look at your best section scores. In particular, CoE will look for your best Math section score. You should still send in both SAT scores as there is no extra cost. With SAT2 Math2 at 800, I do expect you to score better than 700 in SAT1 Math.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, you may apply to UMich LSA instead if you just want to major in CS. It would be a little bit easier to get admitted than at CoE as they have a much larger freshmen class, higher admission rate, and a little bit lower admission statistics. Your GPA is still very low for LSA (avg 3.85) but the admission average SAT of LSA is around 50-100 points lower than at CoE. It is still a reach, but a little bit lower reach than CoE.</p>
<p>For UMich, there are supplemental essays in addition to the CommonApp one.</p>
<p>Thank you so much for your analysis.
I am definitely sending all the SAT scores.
The 800(M),570®, 580(W) from a previous date and the 700(M), 760® and 670(W) from the later date.</p>
<p>I am also sending the SAT Math 2 score of 800. In the most recent sitting of the SAT I was more focused on getting my reading and writing scores higher. I wasn’t worried about math because like I said I already had an 800 from a previous attempt and as a matter of fact AMC 12 scores and AIME scores speak much higher of ones’ math skills than SAT scores.
Many students who score 800’s in SAT Math 1 and SAT Math 2 do not even get close to scoring 100 points at the AMC 12. I in fact received a congratulatory note from UMich Math department for my AMC 12 and AIME scores. I was looking at UMich’s mid range SAT profile and it says this:</p>
<p>SAT 2040-2260
mid 50th % range
•Critical reading: 650-750
•Math: 690-770
•Writing: 670-770</p>
<p>I don’t know how my scholastic EC honors will compensate for my low unweighted GPA. Our high school magnet program is a highly selective program. Only 100 students are selected every year through a tough screening exam. Grading policies are very, very strict. A 3.9 unweighted GPA is just unheard of in my school. The max would be probably around 3.75. Rigorous courses, hard grading procedures are the big reasons behind these low GPA numbers. Please note that I am talking about unweighted GPA all the time. We also work on research projects in our 11’th grade and I did my research project in Computer Science at UMD-College Park on the topic ‘Optimizing and Cracking the Diffie-Hellman Algorithm’. I don’t know how many high school students are required to do research projects such as these in their 11’th grade. I just want to know whether UMich will factor in the curriculum rigor and the stringent requirements our high school students are held up to, while reviewing applications.</p>
<p>That is the stat for UMich overall from last year. Don’t forget the admission rate was 32% that is including in state applicants. The admission rate at CoE was 20%.
As there is no standard in GPA, your school profile may help your low GPA. However, you still need to have strong test scores. As I said, UMich considers GPA/course rigor as very important and test scores important. ECs are just considered but not as important. Any weakness in your GPA or test scores would affect your chance.
Just for your reference, 21% of enrolled freshmen this year has HS GPA 4.0 this year.</p>
<p>I found a statement made by the admission office that UMich will look at the cumulative weighted GPA in the context
of the applicant’s high school. This makes sense and also explains the high 3.9 average GPA you are referring to. I strongly suspect it is the weighted GPA.
Be that as it may, talking about GPA without its associated rigor makes little or no sense at all.
Students may take a boatload of easy courses and get a GPA of 4.0 and students such as these perform miserably and finally either dropout or are asked to leave. These students are basically false positives that get accepted by a system which allows for a selection process that is anything but objective. As far as EC’s are concerned the ones that reflect your academic skills matter. The ones that don’t reflect your academic skills just don’t matter. This is what a Cornell Admission representative told me and I see a lot of logic in it whether it is while selecting people for a job or selecting people for admission. The idea is to select people on the basis of GPA/Curriculum Rigor/SAT scores or Academic EC’s of the highest quality so that the student doesn’t fail.</p>
<p>Also the “21% of enrolled freshmen this year has HS GPA 4.0 this year” that you quote, I am certain, is the
weighted GPA.</p>
<p>No. It is uwGPA. That is the way UMich calculate the GPA without subgrades. They do consider course rigor as very important, however, it does not need 10+ AP to satisfy them. If your GC considers it a high rigor, it is good enough. If you take super high rigor courses and receive a low GPA, it does you no good.</p>
<p>As far as our coursework is concerned, except electives, there is no way a student at our school gets
to choose courses. This is because the magnet program that we are enrolled in has the 100 best students in the county selected through a tough screening exam. All students enter at a much higher level by default and are set along a Math, Science and Computer Science course path. Except electives, no one gets to choose courses. As part of our 10’th grade curriculum we do math and computer science that is beyond the AP curriculum. Therefore all the 100 students easily got a perfect score of 5 in the AP Exams we took in 10’th grade for Calculus BC and Computer Science. Same with other Lab Science courses. However, a 4.0 GPA is just unheard of in our program. Students from our school win Siemen’s competition, Intel competition and qualify for the USAMO on a regular basis but none of them is a 4.0 pointer. Our highest GPA is a 3.76. The top 10-15 students get selected by MIT every year without fail. As far as I am concerned the fact that UMich considers course rigor sounds good to me. I just cannot accept the idea of a very subjective measure such as the GPA without taking into account the course rigor and the kind of school/program the student has undergone. </p>
<p>For sure they will consider your course rigor and school profile when they assess your GPA. Nevertheless, students from schhols like your are already included in the admission statistics. Anyway, even if you have 4.0 GPA with 2130 SAT still makes it a very high match to low reach for LSA and a low reach for CoE from OOS due to the admission rate.</p>
<p>from what i understood from one of your earlier replies that they will consider my previous sat 1 math score of 800
along with the more recent 2130 composite score for admission into engineering. If this is right then how does it improve my chances.</p>
<p>It is very likely that the 3.9 average GPA for accepted students you mentioned is the weighted GPA. I was looking at a statement made by the admission office quite some time ago that said they will look at the cumulative weighted GPA in the context of the school. This makes a lot of sense as just looking at the GPA without accounting for curriculum rigor across different schools with different policies would make the review process very unfair. As far as EC’s are concerned again there is a big difference in impact between scholastic EC’s and non-scholastic EC’s. While Non-Scholastic EC’s do little to show a candidate’s aptitude to handle a tough curriculum, scholastic EC’s of national or international level give a completely different picture. Competitions like the USAMO, AMC 12, AIME, ACSL or ARML measure ones’ ability to solve extremely complex problems in a given time. The ACSL, which is an invitational contest and in which cream-of-the-crop high school students with strong programming skills participate, requires one to write accurate and efficient computer programs in a short time. Competitions like the USAMO, AMC 12, AIME and ACSL make even the students with the best GPA and SAT scores look poor and lost. The admission process, as I understand, is all about finding the right students who can succeed at the university. While grades do give some indication that the student will succeed at the university, I have seen that people with high GPA’s and SAT scores who have not undergone the curriculum rigor and who have got accepted into the highly selective colleges literally crying and dropping out. Looking at GPA in the context of ones’ school makes the most sense to me. Otherwise, just referring to a 3.9 GPA without its associated rigor is just vague and baseless.</p>