<p>How does your 4 years at USxA count towards retirement, pay grades time in service, etc,,,, </p>
<p>I know it has been gone over before but i could not find it. </p>
<p>Thanks. </p>
<p>Also expand on prior service, if you were an E-4 over 3 is that factored in as part of the pay for plebes etc? generally a plebe would get around $100/month, but would a prior nuke receive more?</p>
<p>All Midshipmen get the same basic pay. From that, they pay all of their official liabilities; haircuts, dry cleaning, cobbler, ticket costs, etc and are provided an allowance each month that is determined by class structure; 4/c up to 1/c with the 1/c receiving a greater monthly allowance but the pay rate is the same. It doesn't manner how many years you had prior to I day. Upon graduation, any previous enlisted time then counts. For example, if you did a year at Naps, you are now an Ens over 1 whereas your direct admit Mid is an Ens over 0. If you had four years as an enlistee prior to I-day, you are now an Ens over 4 and so that enlisted service enables to get longevity pay raises earlier than say the "normal" direct admit Midn. It certainly helps a little bit.</p>
<p>The info we had stated that upon graduation, the mids start with no "time in service" (except for prior enlisted personnel). That is, the time at the academy doesn't count until retirement (20+ yrs). Then the four years at the academy is tacked on, giving the retiree 24 years instead of 20, for example.</p>
<p>Not sure how much that extra four years actually adds to retirement pay, but every little bit helps, doesn't it!</p>
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Not true; that's an urban myth. The four years at the Naval Academy are not tacked onto your credited service after 20 years of service. My retirement points record indicates my time at the Naval Academy with a big fat "zero" listed next to each of the four years.</p>
<p>Agree w/Great American. You don't get credit for your USNA years, ever, in terms of retirement, etc.</p>
<p>Someone may be confusing USNA with USUHS (the military medical school). It's my understanding that you will get credit for the 4 years of med school, but ONLY if you stick around for another 20 (i.e., retire). At retirement, the 4 yrs (from USUHS) are added to your total for pay purposes. Thus, if you attended USUHS (for 4 yrs), then worked as a Navy doctor for 22 years after med school, and then retired, you would get credit for 26 years for retirement pay purposes. At least that's my understanding. [However, if you attend USUHS and only work as a Navy doctor for 16 years, you don't get to count the 4 from USUHS and retire at 20.] However, I also believe this only works for USUHS and not civilian medical schools or other military schools.</p>
<p>There has got to be a reason for the urban myth. If a former mid applies for a federal job, does USNA count towards their seniority?</p>
<p>I think NAPS time only counts for prior enlisted. Not sure and not home to check by notes.</p>
<p>USNA1985 - it that USUHS policy only for USUHS and not for other grad schools?</p>
<p>I know when my dad was in the Air Force he was sent to grad school for two years - full time and that time counted. He even got promoted after he got his MS. He retired 20 years after he was commissioned. Of course that was back in the 60's maybe things have changed.</p>
<p>I think at NAPS you are only in the reserves? I am pretty sure those at USMAPS are in the Army Reserves - technically.</p>
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<p>USNA and military service time does count towards federal service if one becomes a civil servant; however, you have to pay the Government for those years of service credited to your account. There is no free lunch.</p>
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Someone may be confusing USNA with USUHS (the military medical school). It's my understanding that you will get credit for the 4 years of med school, but ONLY if you stick around for another 20 (i.e., retire). At retirement, the 4 yrs (from USUHS) are added to your total for pay purposes. Thus, if you attended USUHS (for 4 yrs), then worked as a Navy doctor for 22 years after med school, and then retired, you would get credit for 26 years for retirement pay purposes. At least that's my understanding. [However, if you attend USUHS and only work as a Navy doctor for 16 years, you don't get to count the 4 from USUHS and retire at 20.] However, I also believe this only works for USUHS and not civilian medical schools or other military schools.
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<p>Agree with USNA1985. This is fairly well in line with the USUHS catalog that my daughter received in the mail. The four years at USUHS do not count against the 5/8 year obligation for attending USNA but will be added back after 20 years of service after graduating from USUHS. Also, students who attend USUHS remain Ensigns during their whole tenure but are promoted to Lieutenant (O-3) upon graduation. </p>
<p>The situation is different for those who attend civilian medical schools. While attending civilian medical schools, the students are "off the books" and as such receive no pay or benefits. The service obligation for this option is significantly less than attending USUHS.</p>
<p>Ah yes, That's right! Thanks for the clarification. I must've confused USNA w/ USUHS.</p>
<p>What a good deal it was when DH got picked up for MECP - got to stay active duty while in Nursing School (3 yrs.) and all that time still counted for retirement! Yes, I have to say, the Navy has been very good to us! Yes, there have been sacrifices & lots of duty as I've mentioned in an earlier post, but all in all - not too bad!</p>
<p>...and now a son at the academy! Life is good, isn't it! </p>
<p>(Guess I still haven't come back down to earth after that great weekend in Annapolis for the AF game! Sweet!).</p>