Please rank safety/reach/match for USC, FSU, ASU, SDSU, and more

<p>Right now I have a good list of schools that I'm interested in and I'm hoping to knock off a few to avoid paying a bunch of money for applications. Please rank the following schools as a safety, match, reach, and super reach.</p>

<p>Schools I'm interested in: SDSU, UCSB, UCLA, FSU, UCF, ASU, University of Florida, Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, Cal State University Long Beach, and University of Miami</p>

<p>I'm currently a senior at a public school in NY. My GPA from 9-12 grade is a 3.6 uw and a 4.1 w. However my CSU and UC GPA is somewhere from a 3.6-3.8.</p>

<p>I haven't taken any AP classes, however I have taken at least 5 honors classes.</p>

<p>I have taken both the SAT and ACT once without much preparation and received an 1150 (math/cr) on the SAT (490 on the writing for a total of 1640) and a 21 on the ACT. I'm hoping to get my math/cr up to a 1250 at least and get a 2000/2400.</p>

<p>I have not yet taken any SAT II's but I do plan on doing so.</p>

<p>The only EC I have is working for 4 years.</p>

<p>Thank you!</p>

<p>If you need any other info please let me know!</p>

<p>Where you stand now, Miami and UF will both be really big reaches. UCF and FSU will be lower reaches. You would honestly have to raise your ACT score by at least 7 points (or get the comparable SAT score) to be a competitive applicant for Miami and UF. I don't really know anything about the other schools... sorry! Good luck!</p>

<p>Florida State's current Fall SAT average is now 1265 and UCF's is 1217. A 1250 may get you into any of the Florida schools, but you'll be swimming upstream at Florida State, Miami and U Florida.</p>

<p>How are the Florida schools education wise?</p>

<p>They're good... You can't really compare Miami with them because it's private and the other ones aren't. But as for FSU, UCF, and UF -- FSU and UF are the best of the three, and UF (in general) is thought of as much better than FSU by people in-state. With that being said, they all have strengths where the other ones have their weaknesses... I guess it depends on what you plan on studying</p>

<p>Caveat emptor when you select a university based on US News rankings. You must know the area you want. For example, FSU just experienced a 47 point SAT average increase, which is not reflected in the current ratings. This is one reason why I am amused when I read things like "UF is better academically than FSU" when the poster generalizes and does not really understand why that statement fails in many areas.</p>

<p>I never said that. I simply stated the general opinion of Florida residents, and that is something that (if you're being honest) you can't deny. In general, UF is strong where FSU is weak and vice versa. That's why I said it depends on what he is interested in studying... no need for you to get so defensive -- it makes you seem like you're trying to prove something.</p>

<p>Text cannot communicate emotions very effectively. ;) You (alliem) should not assume I am speaking to you. :)</p>

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I simply stated the general opinion of Florida residents, and that is something that (if you're being honest) you can't deny.

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<p>Do you have a reference?</p>

<p>How about the western schools, anybody?</p>

<p>FSU- High Match
UCF- Match
ASU- Safety
University of Florida-Reach
University of Miami-Reach</p>

<p>Sorry, can't help you with Cali schools.</p>

<p>A reference? Ummm, my ears, my experiences with these people... I'm not here to debate about this. If you honestly think that the majority of Florida residents think that FSU is a better school than UF (not in a particular area of study, just in general), then you are being really naive. I'm not necessarily saying that I agree with it, I'm just saying that that's the way it is.</p>

<p>UF>FSU>UCF</p>

<p>I don't think you can deny that the flagship school of the state is UF (some will try though, I guess). I hear people starting to say the UCF is better than FSU. I think this is completely false. The quality of students at FSU (the quality of students at mostm colleges really) is far superior to the quality of those at UCF. The only reason i but UCF as a match was because I don't know exactly how they deal with out of staters. I'd imagine that your 3.6 would get you in easily, since most people I know that go there have sub 3 gpas. Consider it a high safety-low match. Go to UCF if you want to party every night, go to FSU or UF for the highest quality education. </p>

<p>To be honest, I'd look at USF or UTampa before UCF.</p>

<p>To be honest, I really don't see myself going to school in Florida.</p>

<p>Right now I think my top 3 choices are SDSU, UCSB, and ASU.</p>

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A reference? Ummm, my ears, my experiences with these people... I'm not here to debate about this. If you honestly think that the majority of Florida residents think that FSU is a better school than UF (not in a particular area of study, just in general), then you are being really naive.

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<p>Let's consider a moment that you are here to debate this and that your answer is dangerously simplistic. What, exactly, are you saying? You provide no reference, because there are none. Your statement is a generalization which may be demonstrated false.</p>

<p>I've discussed this concept with many posters on the CC and the answer ultimately is that it depends on what college within the university you want and then, only then, can a fair comparison even be attempted. The US News type ratings, UF's self promotion and recent sports success is about all you're offering. Note that this is not particular to only UF as all universities to some degree engage in this marketing.</p>

<p>Sure, UF has some great departments but they also have mediocre ones, too. Florida State has some great departments as well, but you'd apparently ignore such accomplishment with some vague notion of superiority that all things, such as large state universities, are twins and can be conveniently measured. I assure you that is not the case.</p>

<p>As to "flagship", does that title rotate among the schools? If you consider the history of Florida State and Florida we easily see that FSU has a much more coherent and state-involved past than does Florida, which is more fragmentary. Perhaps you mean that "flagship" is only a temporary award that ebbs and flows with magazine ratings? Which magazine ratings elevate a state asset to this level? Do you have any other indicators of this status?</p>

<p>Maybe "flagship" is awarded only through the media, which I suggest is biased, since UF has a Journalism college and Florida State does not.</p>

<p>dont apply to the UC's if you have a brain.</p>

<p>Why is that?</p>