<p>What is the Political Science/International Relations Department at Penn like? Do we get good professors and resources for researches?</p>
<p>What about the interdepartmental minors at Penn, more specifically, American Public Policy and Urban Education? How good are they? Can I become a teacher just by getting the Urban Education Minor? </p>
<p>Anyone who has taken or know of any of these, your insight will be greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>I'm an IR major and the program is phenomenal. Penn IR does very well for itself. It couldn't do that without a similarly excellent PSCI dept. I'd say it's a top 15 for PSCI.</p>
<p>why aren't you using your old name, bagels</p>
<p>was there someone named bagels?</p>
<p>Unless you mean another name... in which case it was banned forever by our lovely and oh so reasonable moderator overlords. At least it went down doing what it loved...insulting Princeton students</p>
<p>first of all poly sci is a bullcrap major, and i wish most people related to it in anyway, including bagels and i, to experience a horrid death for spewing such vapidness, that aside....</p>
<p>i looked inot the american public policy minor as a freshman, but didn't follow it. very very few people do it. its meant for a small subset of students that basically want to do business and lawschool then get into politics, which i mean, is good, but american pub policy seems a little half baked. not much of either. thats my pessmisitic two won for the day.</p>
<p>would you say the same thing about the Legal Studies and History minor?</p>
<p>I looked into APP as well because I'm interested in perhaps pursuing public policy, but the reason I'm not doing it now is because the courses that count toward it don't include the ones that appeal to me in the poli sci and bpub departments. So instead I'm concentrating in bpub and perhaps taking a few poli sci courses as electives. </p>
<p>Legal Studies and History, from what I understand, is not recommended for pre-law students (same goes for the entire Legal Studies & Business Ethics department) because any "legal" study in college is considered superfluous. Since anybody who's interested in this minor (as opposed to just History) is probably already pre-law, nobody really follows through with it.</p>
<p>Another thing is that both those minors are more restrictive than just minoring in poli sci or history and taking a few bpub/lgst classes on the side, so a lot of people would rather do the latter. Also, most people who are interested in them are already majoring in poli sci, history, or PPE, so there's no point to pursuing these minors.</p>
<p>Right right because the minors are meant more for those who are not majoring in Poli Sci, History, or PPE... I get it.</p>
<p>What are some popular minors then for PPE/IR/PSCI/Econ students?</p>
<p>I have a bunch of friends who are double majoring in IR, poli sci, econ, and/or history, or minoring in one of those fields. A lot of people choose to continue their foreign language and minor or get a certificate in that. Some people do music. There's a full list [url=<a href="http://www.college.upenn.edu/minors/index.php%5Dhere%5B/url">http://www.college.upenn.edu/minors/index.php]here[/url</a>].</p>
<p>The IR folk are all over the place on minors.</p>
<p>To theoneo's list I would agree and add a strong regional studies contingent (South Asia studies, East Asia Studies, European Studies etc).</p>
<p>And never underestimate the randoms, like music, art history, psychology...</p>
<p>yeap yeap... I'm planning PPE + IR and minor East Asian... if that's even possible... I'll probably have to take 5 courses per semester.</p>
<p>You might want to avoid killing yourself by doing the IR concentration within the PPE major... ;)</p>
<p>Also beware that Penn has two undergraduate programs for Asia stuff..there are East Asian area STudies (EAST) and East Asian Languages & Civilizations (EALC). The former is more focused on modern history, politics, diplomacy, culture, etc. The latter is more focused on traditional ancient culture, language, etc</p>
<p>I might do the IR concentration in PPE or a traditional concentration on politics within PPE with a minor in IR... Oh yeah, and I plan on doing the EALC one, I want to take my chinese to the next level.</p>
<p>Good luck! Sounds like a good plan. I double majored in EAST and IR.</p>
<p>I leveraged that into summer job opportunities in Seoul, Singapore, and Beijing.</p>
<p>Now, I'm off to...India! Funny how life works out. I couldn't be more excited though :)</p>
<p>I'll round off that geographical region by selecting: afghanistan</p>
<p>Oh, those wacky pashtos!</p>