Poll: McCain vs Obama

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Vote Obama and everything ever wrong with Bush and the Democratic congress will fix itself. That magical Obama. Ha!</p>

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<p>Your "evidence" is a spiteful mockery by the RNC that takes Obama quotes out of context (Obama was being self-deprecating)? You make Jerome Corsi look like Edward Gibbon.</p>

<p>And nobody is calling Obama the messiah, except jealous Republicans. Nobody is saying that Obama can fix everything, least of all the candidate himself, who repeatedly states that the upcoming challenges will be immensely difficult and that he may falter. </p>

<p>Conservatives are so jealous that they have no political talent anymore.</p>

<p>The original issue was that certain issues get argued over more important issues, was the concern. I pointed out that we have made security as a priority, and despite the fact that our plane trips are a bit more invasive, we are more safe. Stop crying when you were the one that said nothing to further the discussion.</p>

<p>I jump to the end to see a tally and all I see is text. Stop typing you guys!</p>

<p>McCain: 7
Obama: 11</p>

<p>Funny, I'm craving a slurpee right now..</p>

<p>Doesn't matter Palin will bring in the working class vote. Who are more concerned about the price of milk than Obama's aruglua.</p>

<p>Palin is not that likely to bring in the working class vote. Biden also has a working-class background only he has been in the Senate for 35 years. Here are some poll data:</p>

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Doesn't matter Palin will bring in the working class vote.

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<p>Oh, really? Because the working class has ALWAYS gone Republican, right? But seriously. Take a look at the latest polls. Obama's up by 6 and 8 points in the most respected presidential polls (Rasmussen/Gallup).</p>

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Conservatives are so jealous that they have no political talent anymore.

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<p>As evidence of this, just look at Rove's comments the other night. Calling Biden a 'blowhard doofus'? Looks like even Rove's lost his tricks. Many in the conservative base seem to be extremely frustrated with the new direction of the nation. It's unfortunate that they can do nothing to stop it, and that their attempts have thus far been terribly pathetic.</p>

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Some 38% of men said they were more likely to vote for McCain now, but only 32% of women. By a narrow 41% to 35% margin, men said she was not ready to be president -- but women soundly rejected her, 48% to 25%.

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<p>On average, women have always been the smarter ones. McCain is only succeeding at stealing the dumber ones. By a recent poll, it seems that more women were pushed to support Obama by McCain's VP choice.</p>

<p>It's still very early. Your numbers are from just a few days and less than 5000people total.</p>

<p>More people shop at Walmart than Neimens. More people buy milk than augula.</p>

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less than 5000people

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So? If you take a statistics class, you will very rapidly learn that past a certain point sampling size doesn't matter at all.</p>

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More people shop at Walmart than Neimens. More people buy milk than augula.

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And you're assuming that everyone who shops at Walmart will support Palin.</p>

<p>What Democrats have won in recent history? Jimmy "ethnic purity" Carter and Bill Clinton. Working class roots.</p>

<p>Obama traveled around the world, went to fancy schools, registered voters, and became entrenched in the political machine (Alice Palmer, Axelrod). In contrast, both McCain and Palin have scorchingly criticized their own parties.</p>

<p>A history lesson.</p>

<p>United</a> States presidential election, 1964 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</p>

<p>After the great Lyndon Johnson, the Democrats have endured stunning electoral sweeps. Obama "Running for president, I have more experience than Palin, check my campaign success" could very well face the same defeat. Get ready for the October surprise.</p>

<p>1988: Dukakis got 111 to Bush's 426. Even CA went Bush
1984: Mondale got 13 votes HAHA
1980: Carter got 49
1972: McGovern got 17
1968: Humphrey got 191</p>

<p>Is</a> Obama Dukakis II? - The Plank</p>

<p>Dukakis was up 20 points, he lost :(</p>

<p>Okay, jk, Obama will win California. Still, it won't be the map changer that hopey dopes wanted. Who knows, the electoral college might be similar to history's previous matches :D</p>

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Obama...went to fancy schools

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Which he paid dearly for... are you mad at him for his success?</p>

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1984: Mondale got 13 votes

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I consider that a high point in Minnesota's history, just to let you know.</p>

<p>Sorry Jarn, let me edit my statement. I meant to say...</p>

<p>"Obama traveled around the world as a kid, registered voters, and became entrenched in the political machine (Alice Palmer, Axelrod). In contrast, both McCain and Palin have scathingly criticized their own parties."</p>

<p>Minnesota's not too bad, they elected Pawlenty after all :)</p>

<p>The PUMA's will attack. Obama had a chance, but he can't handle someone like Hillary or Palin.</p>

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The PUMA's will attack. Obama had a chance, but he can't handle someone like Hillary or Palin.

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But polls show that most of the Democratic women that had been considering McCain are less likely to choose him now with Palin. Believe it or not, most women are smart enough to vote based on ideals and political positions rather than just picking the first candidate with a pair of X chromosomes.</p>

<p>Obama traveled around the world, went to fancy schools, registered voters, and became entrenched in the political machine (Alice Palmer, Axelrod). In contrast, both McCain and Palin have scorchingly criticized their own parties.</p>

<p>What, so you're criticizing him for living the American dream? Obama grew up working class with only his mother (since his father abandoned them). His mother then remarried and the family moved to Indonesia (one of the poorest countries out there) where he went to normal schools. He then went back to the US by himself to live with his grandparents while his mother remained in Indonesia. </p>

<p>He's had a rough life, more difficult than Palin and much much more difficult than old-money McCain (who needed daddy's help to get into the Naval Academy and still graduated in the bottom 1% of his class... ). But despite his hardships growing up, he was still able to graduate from both Columbia and Harvard Law School of his own accord. He worked to get where he is today. Do you think he was handed a free ride to Columbia and HLS? He had to push himself to achieve his goals. </p>

<p>And don't forget he's Black too. So that means he's also had to face a lot of racism (especially since his mother was White). </p>

<p>So please, don't throw this whole "Palin has humble beginnings" crap at Obama. Obama has had a much more turbulent life and yet he was still able to achieve more (academically and politically) than she ever will.</p>

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More people shop at Walmart than Neimens. More people buy milk than augula.

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<p>I shop at Walmart, and I never tasted arugula until just recently--out of curiosity. I'd never even heard of it before. ... I'm voting for Obama. :)</p>

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The PUMA's will attack.

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<p>All eleven of them?</p>

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More people shop at Walmart than Neimens. More people buy milk than augula.

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<p>Is that seriously the best you can do?</p>

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What, so you're criticizing him for living the American dream? Obama grew up working class with only his mother (since his father abandoned them). His mother then remarried and the family moved to Indonesia (one of the poorest countries out there) where he went to normal schools. He then went back to the US by himself to live with his grandparents while his mother remained in Indonesia.

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Is that a joke? Obama had a childhood more elite than 98% of this country.</p>

<p>I think Obama had a very different type of childhood. </p>

<p>< age 10, it seems he lived in poorer circumstances. As for those who point to his living overseas... I really don't consider Jakarta, nor a non-business owner with no Suharto connections in Jakarta, to be particularly wealthy. </p>

<p>Post-10, he lived a more privileged life. </p>

<p>His upbringing, imo, made him get to know more different types of people... giving him a more well-rounded perspective, I think. He was neither of the extremes all his life (neither extremely wealthy nor poverty-ridden), but experienced a bit of both... </p>

<p>I don't see how that makes him entirely disconnected from either end of the spectrum as people may assert. If someone could explain the reasoning for that?</p>

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Is that a joke? Obama had a childhood more elite than 98% of this country.

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<p>And John McCain is an entirely self-made man.</p>