Pope John Paul II

<p>I believe he was a great person, the gratest!!!</p>

<p>I helped to bring together all the world, he was really international and I bielieve all of us inspite of our religion should be thankful to him and think about him in this moment.</p>

<p>It will be extremely difficult for any other pope to fill John Paul II's shoes. JPII left behind a legacy, one which he will be remembered as one of the greatest pontifs of all time.</p>

<p>indeed.. </p>

<p>let's all pray for his soul. no doubt, he will go to heaven :)</p>

<p>I loved him...</p>

<p>I tought someday I would be able to meet him in person</p>

<p>however today he is in a much better place than all of us. </p>

<p>rest in peace John Paul :)</p>

<p>Although I belong to an Eastern Orthodox church and am not very religious myself, I feel the grief of all the world for this truly great man. For me, he came to symbolise much more in religious leadership than our own patriarch (head of church). If a man should deserve sainthood, then John Paul II should be he.</p>

<p>Pope John Paul was the best. Here in Spain people have a sweet&sour feeling. Sweet because we know he's in peace now, but sour because many of us feel that a great leader left, someone who took care of us in the most effective way: praying sincerely for us</p>

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<p>what do you guys think of that?</p>

<p>I think he deserves sainthood. Forgiving an enemy - one who tried to kill him, no less - is one of the single most difficult things to be able to do.</p>

<p>Are you serious?
He was the Pope for godsake(no pun intended), ofcourse he would forgive anyone who tried to kill him, its all about sticking to the rules and at the end its all about marketing.</p>

<p>lol hilarious</p>

<p>i like latkes</p>

<p>I like lattes... Does that count?</p>

<p>I like latkes too, and I'm not even Jewish.</p>

<p>Not necessarily. Nobody is required to forgive, are they? Also, I would think that presidents and political figures are more likely to forgive for a "marketing ploy" as opposed to a religious figure. After all, what would he be self-marketing for? We don't vote for Popes.</p>

<p>No, you don't. </p>

<p>And you missed the point. Its not the marketting of the pope but of the religion.
If the "man closest to God on earth", doesn't forgive as he ought to, what kind of example would he be setting? Are not catholics supposed to forgive as "He" has done for "our" sins?</p>

<p>Are you joking?</p>

<p>Have you ever read a history book?</p>

<p>Religion is often synonymous with politics and as such, marketing is crucial.</p>

<p>Yeah, I did miss the point - seemed ridiculous to me that a Pope would have to advertise himself. As for marketing for a religion, then I understand that he would forgive to set an example - but we don't truly know this, do we? I guess I maintain an idealistic view in thinking that he forgave for forgiveness' sake.</p>

<p>I wrote of forgiveness regardless of Catholicism's view of it - I respect anyone, religious or not, who does it purely for the sake of forgiving and purging one's spirit of anger and grudge, rather than for forgiving because God told them to do so. God requires Muslims to fast, but many people here fast because they're required to - not all see it as something you do to sympathise with the poor, which is why God asked us to do it in the first place!</p>

<p>And I realise that religion is intertwined with politics - but again, idealistically, something as independent as forgiveness should not have to be marketted for the masses, because it would lose its power if people forgave just because the Pope did it.</p>

<p>I'm just in my own little bubble of idealisms.</p>

<p>Thats nice, I guess we need more Idealists.</p>

<p>I consider myself more of a realist working for an idealistic world. Sounds very contradictory, but oh well.</p>

<p>I completely understand. I see and appreciate the problems of the world, but I refuse to accept them, so I'm often unhappy with my surroundings. Then I find hope in the fact that I can do something to change the world to make it even a little better. In the end, we're both working for the same thing, aren't we?</p>

<p>LOL, this topic has diverged quite a bit. Sorry, yeahmeh :)</p>

<p>wow...you know what, that is such a solid attitude that i feel bad for even breathing a cynical breath into your world (no sarcasm intended).</p>

<p>Keep that attitude...but keep your head up because not everyone is as idealistic as you and some have completely different motives.</p>