<p>Why dont more students earn their college education rather than ask for handouts? ROTC has scholarships. It annoys me that people complain about having to pay like 40k or something for school when lots of people do more. I'm not in any way associated with ROTC but I read ROTC gives out scholarships. Why don't more people go that route rather than beg and appeal FA decisions?</p>
<p>Maybe it's because they don't want to go to Iraq. This is not a war that most Americans think is worthwhile. <a href="http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm</a></p>
<p>You agree that liberals should just leave Iraq and not have to deal with the consequences of the war? Withdrawing does not stop the violence or does it? Just asking, not implying anything ok?</p>
<p>I didn't say anything about what should happen in Iraq. I simply pointed you to evidence about Americans' views of the war and suggested that those views might be related to students wishing to join ROTC.</p>
<p>ROTC does not just "give out" scholarships. They are competitive and many are either for very specific fields (like language or engineering) that a student may not have the aptitude for -- or they are only very partial scholarships.</p>
<p>Not only that -- you have to pass a physical, which is pretty difficult and not everyone can pass.</p>
<p>I am a huge proponent of ROTC -- but it is not for everyone.</p>
<p>Collegebound: Have you taken economics? We don't live in the "Star Trek" world where there is unbounded resources. Where do you think this cost would come from? I guess all the rich 2.9GPA kids, eh?</p>
<p>My goodness!</p>
<p>I'm ineligible for military service. Bring on the next scholarship.</p>
<p>"You agree that liberals should just leave Iraq and not have to deal with the consequences of the war? Withdrawing does not stop the violence or does it? Just asking, not implying anything ok?"</p>
<p>Why? because nobody likes the referees anyway and we're the ones with the striped shirt and whistle in the middle of a civil war. How much longer would our civil war lasted if say, the French were also there as an occupation force? </p>
<p>And by the way, What consquences of leaving them to settle up be? Fewer dead Americans? Or are you going to prove that the iraqi terrorists are such good swimmers for distance that they can get here with the same frequency?</p>
<p>CollegeBound99,</p>
<p>I actually won two four-year ROTC scholarships: one Army ROTC to UC Santa Barbara and a Navy ROTC scholarship to UCLA but still, though ROTC gives you $180,000, that money can ONLY be used for tuition. Since both those schools are instate for me, the tuition cost is actually much less than room and board. Therefore, though I have a boatload of aid, not everything is paid for. You do get a stipend for food and books though, but it still isn't enough. Even on a ROTC scholarship, if you're not already well off, it'll still be a problem when it comes down for paying for school.</p>
<p>But yes, not everyone wants to serve in the military either- it's just not for everyone.</p>
<p>Another option to consider is the United States service academies- absolutely everything paid for plus a stipend. I myself will be heading to West Point in July. Though there is a deposit involved (I paid $2,900) you can offset that deposit dollar for dollar by earning other scholarships as long as its not specifically for tuition or room and board.</p>
<p>My daughter got the NROTC - Nurse Corps. Yes, $180,000 not including room & board. She found out January, where she only applied to a school in the State of Washington. She did not like the weather and the possible deployment to Iraq, jail in Cuba and something else. </p>
<p>Since she got into the Nursing Science at UC Irvine, she chose to stay in California. Cost to us parents more, but thats her decision.</p>
<p>Sometimes you can search a no name school with not too high GPA and SAT scores you can get scholarships. Example - Dominican University of California gave a lot to my daughter for the Nursing program. Trustee Scholarship plus University Scholarship. It is a small private school and they have a 91% board exam passers.</p>
<p>Just research you will find a lot.</p>
<p>For the most part, if you are as smart as the average CCer and you are physically eligible, getting a full ride through ROTC is very feasible. Even if you are against the war in Iraq, what do you value more, Your college education or not fighting in Iraq?</p>
<p>College funding is a perk of ROTC, not the point. Go for ROTC if you want to be an officer in the military, otherwise, consider your choices very carefully.</p>
<p>ROTC has advantages and disadvantages- some not so obvious.
It is true that by enlisting in the military by joining ROTC, you can get money for your education. You could also get money for your education by working for an employer that gives incentives or actually pays for education.</p>
<p>It also doesn't guarantee appointment as an officer
<a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,208174,00.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,208174,00.html</a></p>
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Entering their respective services as officers can afford candidates some privileges over enlisted members, and positions them for leadership and decision-making roles, sometimes all the way to the top ranks.</p>
<p>With that end in mind, total enrollment in all ROTC categories in fiscal year 2004, which ended Sept. 30, 2004, was 52,133, according to the most recent available data provided by the Defense Department. Army ROTC enrollment that year was 39,618; combined Navy and Marine enrollment was 6,146; and Air Force enrollment was 16,369.</p>
<p>But the number of newly commissioned officers coming out of those programs frequently fluctuates. According to Defense Department figures, in fiscal year 2002 the Army commissioned 5,948 recruits out of all its programs: Officer Candidate School, West Point and elsewhere. Of that total, 2,437 came from ROTC programs.</p>
<p>In the fiscal year that ended on Sept. 30, 2005, annual Army ROTC officer production rose to 2,706. But projections call for a decrease to between 2,100 and 2,400 officers per year through 2008.</p>
<p>As for the Navy, it commissioned 1,017 officers from ROTC programs in fiscal year 2002. In 2008 it expects to commission 800 ROTC graduates. The Marines commissioned 164 ROTC graduates in 2002; in 2008 it plans to commission 225 ROTC recruits.</p>
<p>The Air Force has the most drastic planned changes in officer recruiting. In 2002, the Air Force commissioned 7,191 officers, but in 2008, it expects to commission 2,683 fewer officers. The ROTC numbers reflect that shift, from 2,518 officers commissioned in 2002, down to 2,089 expected in 2008.
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<p>you could die in war for a cause you don't even believe in!</p>
<p>^^
Or...you could spend the rest of your life thinking if only I had gone to "(Insert Dream School here)" maybe I would have been like this, had this kind of job...it's not for everyone. Also, I think most people would consider getting his or her own college education a "cause they believe in"</p>
<p>raimius makes a great point. Do NOT go for ROTC if you do not want to be in the military. I understand the hardship for reservists at this time too when they are called away from family and their "regular" jobs but they signed up for this. Do not join the reserves if you do not want to do the military stints.</p>