Possibly delay applying to psych grad school: advice?

<p>This is a little weird because even though my posting record says that this is my first post, I actually have been here before - when I was applying to college for undergraduate study. I need a bit of advice as to how to go about applying myself to become a stronger candidate for graduate school. People have said that I’m worrying about applying too early, but from my experience, it’s NEVER too early to begin preparing for the future. </p>

<p>I am entering my junior year at a private, religiously-affiliated school in Texas. I entered college thinking that I was going to go to medical school, so I began taking the basic courses for premed reqs. (general bio/chem, genetics, labs). Midway through organic chem, I realized that it just wasn’t for me. I switched my major to psychology, a field that I actually like and am very adept at learning (I already had AP credit, which drastically shortened the amount of classes I was behind). </p>

<p>However, therein lies my problem. Because I am late coursewise (but will still graduate in 4 years), I will not be able to take the capstone and lab courses until my senior year - when I intend to apply for grad school. I haven’t had a chance to be involved in research up to this point (the biology dept. only wanted biology majors working in their labs, and the psychology dept. at my school apparently doesn’t do active research such as run a lab or anything of the sort - so no working with professors on projects.) Ironically, the major is research-oriented. The main source of research experience comes from those capstone courses, where the students design, perform, and present their own experimentation. </p>

<p>I am very serious about going to grad school. My interest subspecialties are biopsychology/neuropsychology or industrial/organizational psychology. I eventually want to end up working at NIH for my career. The only problem is that I am not exactly sure on where to start in the process in looking for grad schools. I looked at the US News Report on the best grad schools in both of those specialty areas, and have tried to make some contacts as well as reach out to do research at those institutions before my senior year, to get some experience under my belt. (as a side note, I am a very strong student otherwise. My GPA is almost a 3.6 - at my school, that is very difficult for science majors…we have a very large core set of classes to go through in addition to any major you choose, and the science majors tend to be larger than the others. I also do a lot of volunteering - many of the other courses I must take are service-oriented.)</p>

<p>In short, here are the questions that I have:</p>

<li><p>Because I was so late in switching majors, should I <em>seriously</em> look at taking a year off to build up research experience? If I do, would it be better to try to find work in a lab program that I would eventually like to become a student at? Does it matter whether you work at a university or another professional institution?</p></li>
<li><p>GRE: I plan to take the GRE in march (before my senior year) to see how I do, and also because I will be trying very hard to get into a summer research program (don’t want to have to worry about studying for the GRE so that I can focus on my research). Is this a good idea, or should I wait and take it in October of my senior year, like most people (at least that I know that have gone to graduate school)? </p></li>
<li><p>Since I had planned on declaring my major as biology before, I have an extensive background in the field (it is now a minor). Will that have any substatial positive influence on making my case to being accepted to work with a faculty mentor, and hopefully being accepted to the program?</p></li>
<li><p>Do the higher ranked schools scrutinize WHERE you completed your undergrad? How much does that matter?</p></li>
<li><p>In the event that I apply and am not accepted to a program, can I ask on what grounds I wasn’t accepted? If I go back and fix those things and reapply as a “stronger” candidate, how does it look to them? Does it show dedication or will they think “doesn’t this person know when to give it up”?</p></li>
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<p>I know this was scattered and kind of long, but I’d appreciate any information and advice given. My advisor and professors, though knowledgeable, are not well versed in the field of study and the career path that I would like to pursue, so most of the information I have has come from the outside (faculty advisors in graduate programs, the APA, internet).</p>

<p>an extremely important factor for psych grad programs is research experience, so it might be helpful for you to take a year to make sure you have this. it doesnt matter where you work, as long as you are interested in what you are doing, and you will be doing something relevant</p>

<p>is a year in a lab enough, then? </p>

<p>one the advisors i talked to said that they'd rather see someone stay in a lab for three years and really get some work under their belt rather than taking a year off just to do any sort of research.</p>

<p>Your bio experience will pay dividends for a neuroscience program but your lack of research experience will hurt you. Industrial/organizational will be less focused on previous research experience but are harder to get into than the biopsych ones. A summer research program will help alot and you will not lose anything by taking the GRE in your junior year. You have to decide which of the programs you want as they are really different in admission requirements, scope and eventual practice. One avenue open to you is to do a 12 month-18 month MA program in experimental psych to beef up your credentials as your college program sounds like it will not be viewed positively by top schools given the lack of student involvement in faculty research. You don't need to work three years in somebody's lab to show decent research credentials. That may be true in bio but not in psych. If you want to work at NIH why organizational psych? You can ask why you weren't accepted and if somebody from department admissions takes pity on you they may give you a good answer, but most likely they will cover their butts and give you platitudes. Look to your own faculty or others to determine the stregth and weaknesses of your applications.</p>

<p>Thanks for all the advice thus far!</p>

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<li><p>The I/O is a sort of backup plan just in case the biopsych doesn't work out. I would want to be a independent consultant, preferably in a large corporate setting. I learned that they actually do a lot of engineering-type things. </p></li>
<li><p>I would look at an MA option, but it's not really practical for me financially. If I'm going to grad school, I'm going to grad school. Getting an MA would just add to the massive amount of debt I'm going to incur getting a Ph.D., and I'd like to finish school in one sitting. </p></li>
<li><p>it's also not that there's no student involvement in faculty research at my school, it's that the <em>entire</em> program of research is student-driven. Any project that is ongoing in the department is run by undergrads, under faculty supervision. It would seem to me that that would be more favorably looked upon, even more so than working in a lab under another faculty member - which is what happens at other schools. My problem is that I will be in the middle of the first of those classes when it's time to apply. I know you can talk about current projects in the application process, will those count to the admissions or are they only looking at completed projects?</p></li>
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<p>[Currently, my #1 reach is UMich's biopsych. I think I can make it. A closer school would be UT's neuropsych program, but I don't know much about it or anyone from there. I'm just wondering how comparable they are in the workforce, if anyone knows.]</p>

<p>In many cases a biopsych program is a non-applied, research oriented program which prepares students for academic and research careers. neuropsych programs tend to be more applied, clinically oriented programs which prepare students for academic and/or clinical careers. They are not comparable in the workforce.</p>