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<p>“Bats and mosquitos come out at twilight, (and the bats would look for mosquitos and the mosquitos would look) for people
A) and the bats would look for mosquitos and the mosquitos would look
B) and the bats come to look for mosquitos while the mosquitos look
C) the bats look for mosquitos and the mosquitos are looking
D) the bats looking for mosquiots while mosquitos would look for
E) the bats to look for mosquitos and the mosquitos to look”</p>

<p>C makes the sentence run-on. D lacks parallelism. A and B are not parallel also because “the bats” after and is a subgroup of “Bats and mosquitos” (a similar setence about villagers and ice-skating could be seen somewhere in the practice tests of the blue book). After the litmus test, we know that E is the answer.</p>

<p>I read this “rule” online. The other advice seems pretty good, but I question this one (taken from grammarbook.com):</p>

<p>"Rule 13. Sometimes the pronoun who, that, or which is the subject of a verb in the middle of the sentence. The pronouns who, that, and which become singular or plural according to the noun directly in front of them. So, if that noun is singular, use a singular verb. If it is plural, use a plural verb. </p>

<p>Examples: He is one of the men who (does/do) the work.
The word in front of who is men, which is plural. Therefore, use the plural verb do."</p>

<p>I would think it would be “he DOES”, but from this rule, who refers to “men” and thus the answer is DO. </p>

<p>Thoughts?</p>

<p>What tests are these questions from? I may be able to find an answer key.</p>

<p>“He is one of the men who do work” means that he is among guys who do work.</p>

<p>“He is one of the men who does work” means that he is among some guys who may or may nor work, but he works.</p>

<p>In the former sentence, “He is one” is the main subject-predicate, and the adjective clause is part of the prepositional phrase.</p>

<p>In the latter sentence, “He is one who does work” is the main subject-predicate, and “of the men” is an inconsequential intervening prepositional phrase.</p>

<p>Thieugia, please clarify your point about choice (B).</p>

<p>^ silverturtle
Given option B, the sentence under consideration would be “Bats and mosquitos come out at twilight, and the bats come to look for mosquitos while the mosquitos look for people”
You can see that the subjects of two sides of the “and” are “Bats and mosquitos” and “the bats”. That the former includes the later violates the rule of parallelism.</p>

<p>I am revising the BB and will post the example that justifies my stance soon.</p>

<p>The Test was the March 2005 test. This is the link i got it from.
<a href=“http://www.palmbeach.k12.fl.us/satcoach/CollegeBdSAT.pdf[/url]”>http://www.palmbeach.k12.fl.us/satcoach/CollegeBdSAT.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>^Thieuga–well, how do you explain the lack of conjunction in the sentence then? “The” is definitely not a grammatically acceptable conjunction.</p>

<p>“the bats to look for mosquitos and the mosquitos to look”</p>

<p>What would the phrase that is answer (E) be called?</p>

<p>Thieugia, am I correct in generalizing the rule that you applied as,</p>

<p>X and Y verb1, and X/Y verb2 = lack of parallelism, where X and Y are subjects of verb1, and X/Y means either X or Y as the subject of verb2, which is not necessarily distinct from verb1</p>

<p>?</p>

<p>I’ve never heard this rule.</p>

<p>^If i were to say something, it’s that there has to be parallel construction among words like and, but, or, than, and as. </p>

<p>I got this from the PSAT practice booklet tips.
“Compare the structures of phrases that are joined by conjunctions like and, but, or, than, and as. Parallel phrasing is generally preferable to nonparallel phrasing.”</p>

<p>^ Indeed, but I didn’t realize that it was a violation of parallelism to include a subject in one clause that comprised the compound subject of a clause that was linked to the other with “and.”</p>

<p>Yea true. Tricky… ill just wait for Thieugia to answer your question.</p>

<p>Actually, i think if you trim the fat, the problem becomes clearer.
This is the answer choice we both thought was correct: “Bats and mosquitos come out at twilight, and the bats come to look for mosquitos while the mosquitos look for people”</p>

<p>Trim the fat and you get: “Bats and mosquitos…and the bats” —That is not parallel.</p>

<p>silverturtle, so for this sentence:
He is one of the men who (does/do) the work. </p>

<p>Both “does” or “do” are grammatically correct, depending on the intended meaning?</p>

<p>Yes, but the meaning associated with the use of “do” in that context is more common.</p>

<p>4) We were afraid of the teacher’s wrath, due to his statement that he would penalize anyone who failed to hand in the paper.</p>

<p>a) wrath, due to his statement that
b) wrath because of his statement that</p>

<p>Barrons says that B is correct because “due to” is used incorrectly. What??</p>

<p>15) Please give this scholarship to whoever in the graduating class has done the most to promote goodwill in the community. No error.</p>

<p>I think the answer is A, because it should be “to whomever” – I thought a form of whom always follows a preposition… but apparently the answer is No error… can someone clarify when to use who and whom?</p>

<p>First of all, its barron’s–screw them. They don’t know anything about the SAT’s. </p>

<p>Here is the rule for whoever/whomever:
To determine whether to use whoever or whomever, here is the rule:
him + he = whoever
him + him = whomever</p>

<p>Examples: Give it to whoever/whomever asks for it first.</p>

<p>Give it to him. He asks for it first. </p>

<p>Therefore, Give it to whoever asks for it first.</p>

<p>Moreover, it’s usually a good idea to break up the clause into two seperate clauses. So for your sentence, “Please give this scholarship to whoever in the graduating class has done the most to promote goodwill in the community. No error.”</p>

<p>You should break up this sentence into two clauses as follows: “please give this scholarship to him. He has done the most to promote goodwill in the community.” </p>

<p>According to the rule stated above, him + he=whoever.</p>

<p>Could you explain why C & D are wrong?
If the proposed expenditures for gathering information abroad are reduced even further, international news reports have been and will continue to diminish in number and quality.
(A) have been and will continue to diminish
(B) have and will continue to diminish
(C) will continue to diminish, as they already did,
(D) will continue to diminish, as they have already,
(E) will continue to diminish</p>

<p>Option C & D are redundant. The answer is E.
C and D are redundant becuase the sentence already says the reports were reduced. This is part of the sentence that tells you that: “If the proposed expenditures for gathering information abroad ARE REDUCED EVEN FURTHER…”. That tells you that they had already diminished and therefore, option C, “will continue to diminish, As THEY ALREADY DID,” is unnecessary, and “Did” is for singular but it’s referring to the reports, so it has to be plural. In option D, “will continue to diminish, as they have already,”, the “as they have already” is redundant, even though “have” refers to the reports, unlike answer choice C. </p>

<p>Hope that helps.</p>

<p>thanks. I now understand that C D are redundant, but i can’t really figure out why DID is for singular</p>

<p>Oh wait, sorry i made a mistake…Did isn’t necessarily for singular. I didn’t realize that the pronoun “they” was in there. My bad. Did is for past tense, which is used correctly.</p>