<p>I think our views on cheating depend largely on how our parents have raised us. More and more students are becoming immoral because parental expectations have become more extrinsic- they care more about our grades than what we actually pull from the things we learn. I know for sure that’s how my parents raised me. And it shows: although I personally don’t really have much inclination to cheat, I don’t care at all if people around me do it.</p>
<p>Oh, I’m not judging. I thought about cheating and almost did cheat; there are days where I WISH I could find a way to cheat. I’m just as damned as anybody even though I haven’t actually done it. </p>
<p>I was just sharing my experiences lol</p>
<p>I tried cheating on a gym test once back in 7th grade. This was back when we had tests over sports and I was absent the day my class took the test over track and field so I had to go out in the hall to take the test but I needed to go to my gym locker because I needed a pencil and I realized that my gym locker also had the little booklet with all the rules and stuff about track and field.
To this day, I have no idea how I screwed that up. I had the answers in front of me and the test was on scantron but I felt so awful about it and I was so scared that I accidentally bubbled in the wrong answers I guess. I took it as a sign that cheating wasn’t for me and I haven’t done it since.</p>
<p>Yeah I agree with you clementine. No one’s perfect and everyone has done something wrong at least once in their life so there’s no point in having a “holier than thou” attitude. </p>
<p>Out of curiosity, how do you guys deal with someone trying to cheat off you? (It can be homework or a test)</p>
<p>well, not cheating because you’re personally against is obviously good. but making blanket statements about all cheaters being morally corrupt… yeah that’s ridiculous</p>
<p>if it’s my friend, i let them lol
if it’s someone who i don’t like/know, i usually just move my hand in front of my answers, but only if i can do so casually. i’m afraid of making people upset LOL</p>
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<p>Of course they aren’t morally corrupt…just because I do something wrong doesn’t mean I’m irredeemably evil.
But if cheating is wrong, then no reason is good enough to make it not wrong. It’s understandable that people are morally weaker when they’re under stress, but that doesn’t make cheating okay.
Still, we shouldn’t get carried away and say stuff like “cheaters never prosper” as if “cheater” is an permanent label and you either have it or don’t. </p>
<p>(Speaking of getting carried away…I wouldn’t be on here writing novels except for the fact that this is the only interesting thread up at the moment. :))</p>
<p>Live and let live. Just because I’m Catholic doesn’t mean you have to be; just because I don’t cheat doesn’t mean you don’t have to.</p>
<p>For APUS in my junior year, a kid pre-wrote all his in-class essays so he would pretend to write then swap out at the last second. This was because our teacher put up 3 “possible” prompts and said he would randomly pick one. So this kid pre-wrote three essays the night before. For being dedicated to cheating, he sure worked harder than he needed to.</p>
<p>Later on in the year, there was a girl who was ranked 7 (I was a junior, she was a senior graduating) who had been cheated off by a girl next to her on a final(and she didn’t know assumingly). She failed the test and was threatened to fail the semester and this entire ordeal became overly dramatic. She was going to Cal but almost had her chances shot. A lot of the students and teachers petitioned the board of edu. to delve into the situation and it eventually got resolved. Happy ending!</p>
<p>I personally think cheating isn’t good or correct. It doesn’t make a person bad by any means. A lot of my friends, some fighting for valedictorian alongside me, have cheated before. Obviously it ranges from math homework to flat out tests, but those who deny that cheating doesn’t matter or say that its the results that are important, not the process, are in denial. </p>
<p>I find it hypocritical that clementines says those who act morally superior are immoral. Cheating doesn’t make someone immoral - denying that cheating is an immoral act IS 100% immoral. There is no case cheating is okay. I do agree that high school is set up with so much busy work and irrelevant assignments that plainly foster cheating. Since I don’t know much myself about college and life, I can’t say cheaters won’t succeed, but I’d like to think so.</p>
<p>okay, luckywinner, act like i haven’t made it abundantly clear that cheating is wrong. </p>
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<p>i only said judging is wrong. nobody’s perfect (except josh hutcherson <33)</p>
<p>In college, it’s almost impossible to cheat. For one thing, in most bigger class sections, they make you put all your bags and belongings at the front of the room on test days, including phones. If you have anything, they’ll see it. </p>
<p>The profs and TAs also prowl around the room to monitor things. Or in smaller classes, the profs make you move one desk over so that everyone is a few feet apart. Then they sit at the front of the room alternating between grading papers and watching you. </p>
<p>As far as papers, there are strict plagiarism policies. Even if you cite something wrong, you can be accused of plagiarism and face sheer consequences. A lot of students don’t know that they have to cite paraphrasing, so that gets a lot of people. </p>
<p>Anyways, in sum, it’s pretty hard to do, and if you got caught, you’re gonna fail a class that you paid for and that you have to pay for again.</p>
<p>I go to a mediocre, smallish state university. My classes have around 40 people each (I’ve never taken a large lecture class, and I’m assuming they’re stricter there).
During tests, which aren’t multiple choice, we (usually) can’t sit directly next to people, but we’re allowed to have our bags on the floor next to our desks. The professor sits at the front of the room.
I feel like it would be pretty obvious if someone were cheating, but then again I wouldn’t know how to cheat in a high school class either.</p>
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<p>Just because you don’t eat babies doesn’t mean I don’t have to. 
Where do we draw the line?</p>
<p>yes, because cheating will obviously lead to a life of eating poor little babies</p>
<p><em>deleting the controversial thing</em></p>
<p>mostly, you’re just hurting yourself by cheating. if you’re going to hurt me, then i’ll decide to not help you, unless you’re my friend and i want to take the risk. </p>
<p>but i think the line would be drawn at legitimately hurting other people.</p>
<p>And that’s true! I don’t “have” to not eat babies, but I don’t eat babies because I don’t want to, not because I “have” to based on someone else’s situation. I don’t “have” to not cheat because I was told it was wrong, but I don’t cheat because I don’t want to. Things like morals are very much contingent upon the self. It doesn’t matter what someone else does because it’s YOUR set of morals.</p>
<p>If that makes any sense… :)</p>
<p>Funny story: In Chem, a bunch of us missed a test to do ECs, being sick, etc. and we were sent into a connecting room to take it. As soon as the teacher closed the door, everybody, excluding me (I have the strongest guilty conscious and if I cheat, it would be like the Tell-Tale Heart), whipped out their phones and started talking through the questions with each other. One guy actually called another guy asking him for help. Well, apparently the teacher could see everything that was happening through a small window, and he took pictures. And nobody noticed him. Afterwards, he was mad at everybody except me and he held me in high regard after that.</p>
<p>That’s not to say that I think cheaters are horrible people. A lot of them are some of the nicest people I’ve met. But I would never cheat personally, because I know that I couldn’t live with the fact that I cheated.</p>
<p>tl;dr this entire thread: Cheating is bad and you should avoid cheating because cheating is bad and doing something that is bad is not good, it is actually bad.</p>
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<p>So you’re a moral relativist?</p>
<p>The President of our school’s National Honor Society has been caught cheating three times. Once freshman year in Geometry, once Sophomore year in Chemistry, and once Junior year in AP World. She was just elected President.</p>
<p>Oh, irony, how you never cease to amuse me.</p>
<p>Somebody was trying to cheat off of my friend so she let him copy her answers to the quiz. After he turned it in, she changed what she had written to the correct answers. He got a 60, she got a 90 :P</p>
<p>I don’t eat babies because they have no protein.</p>