<p>Hi I'm an accepted student and i'm planning to come to UVa. Is it possible to do both pre-commerce (and commerce school in the 3rd and 4th year) while I do pre-med?
Will it be too tough? Will the 3rd and 4th year in Commerce school kill the GPA?
Is 2 years enough to finish Pre-med requirement? I am already taking AP Bio (very likely a 5), AP Chem (4 or 5), and AP Calc BC (4 or 5).
I can't decide which area I really wanted to go. I don't think I can make up my mind 2 years later when I apply to commerce school either. </p>
<p>I think I will retake Chemistry and take Differential Equation in the 1st year. </p>
<p>realistically speaking, your grades in the pre-med classes might put you out of the running for getting into the comm school (premed classes are super hard of course, and comm school ppl have to have perfect gpas to get in). im not sure if it's possible to do both, or if i would advise it. once youre in the comm school you have 12-15 credits required so you would have to fulfill all of the comm school prereqs and all of the premed reqs in your 1st 2 yrs... probably not realistic either.</p>
<p>Thats 21 classes/labs to do. If you have to do the whole language requirement thats four more classes. The pre comm classes obviously have to be completed before the start of third year. The med school classes have to be finished by the end of third year if your planning on applying to med school immediately after college (you might want to think about working for a while). If you're in the comm school you'll really only have time to take one outside course during third year (two if you don't do finance/accounting).</p>
<p>The AP science classes you're going to earn won't actually help that much because Med Schools want you take upper level science classes if you test out of the introductory classes.</p>
<p>A big part of the game for getting into both the comm school and med school is to get high grades. Keep this in mind when you're choosing what classes to take. I don't want to discourage you from following your academic passions. If you want to do math, do math. But DiffEq is neither a med school nor comm school prerequisite and is really hard. Your hands are already going to be full with the sciences classes you're going to have to take. Why lump another hard math class on top?</p>
<p>Grades given in the comm school are generally higher than in the other schools in the college. Now on some level this is because students in the comm school were higher achieving than the general student body in the first two years of college. But I think its fair to say that going to the comm school will help you GPA for med school.</p>
<p>Good luck with whatever you end up choosing.</p>
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realistically speaking, your grades in the pre-med classes might put you out of the running for getting into the comm school (premed classes are super hard of course, and comm school ppl have to have perfect gpas to get in)
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<p>Umm, no. The average GPA of students accepted to the Comm school is ~3.4, and the required coursework isn't too difficult. While pre-med courses can be rigorous, you do realize that admission to medical school is substantially more competitive than admission to comm school (lol), and GPA need to be at least in the mid 3's, right???</p>
<p>"realistically speaking, your grades in the pre-med classes might put you out of the running for getting into the comm school (premed classes are super hard of course, and comm school ppl have to have perfect gpas to get in)"</p>
<p>False. Cav302 is correct on this one. The Pre-Med route is generally much harder than the Pre-Comm route, but if you can pull a 3.3-3.4, you'll be fine for the Comm school. </p>
<p>However, IHateCR, you do have a point about it being hard once you are in Comm school. There is no way you'll be able to take more than 1 Pre-Med class each semester of 3rd year in the Comm school, and I'd strongly advise against even that. Third year Comm school is an absolute ton of work, and I'm not sure how well you'd be able to focus on other studies. But, if you can work it so you do a lot of your Pre-Med requirements 1st and 2nd year, then load up on them again 4th year, I think it should be doable.</p>
<p>i was accepted to UVA (YAY!), and i think i want to go pre-med. would it be helpful to major in nursing?? how hard is it to transfer to the nursing school??</p>
<p>well im just saying those classes are hard, and youll proly end up working hard on one type of class than the other? like... to get a good grade in econ maybe you let your grade in orgo slip? or you dont have a social life. i know med school admissions are harder than comm school admissions lol. its just everyone i know has done poorly in premed classes. maybe that means theyre not going to medschool lol.</p>
<p>Yea, I don't know why you'd want a business degree if you're interested in medical school. If I were hardcore pre-med, I'd major in something like history or anthropology.</p>
<p>I wish I could side with IhateCR, but I agree with Cav here. While i'm in engineering hoping to take other side classes outside of engineering, and go to grad school for an MBA, I just can't see how business would aid in med-school. Unless you're hoping to have something to fall back on, which is a perfectly sound reason. So if you're true about going to med-school, I would go for a major that is easy to maintain a high GPA (that you would enjoy to take, as well) or go for bio/chem so you can overlap pre-med/degree requirements. If you're not so sure about med-school, then yes, earning a comm degree would be wise so you have something to fall back on.</p>
<p>Better to fall back on a business (or engineering) degree if you don't get in med school and if you're concerned about employment and/or student debt.</p>
<p>Besides, considering that physicians have to make business decisions every day, it makes perfect sense to apply to the Comm school. There are too many docs investing in alpaca and ostrich farms.</p>
<p>Trying to do both would probably result in lower grades thus making it harder to get into med school or getting hired to a top business job. You decide earlier rather than later and make your life a lot easier.</p>
<p>You don't need a degree from the comm school. If you present yourself well, it's not hard to get a job with any major. (<--says the liberal arts major who has a good internship lined up this summer)</p>
<p>cav let's be clear though. if you want to get an internship/job in finance or consulting, the comm school will maximize your chances at most places. it is very highly regarded among recruiters (for whatever reason) and you will be competing with people who have taken classes that basically prepare them for the interviews. you can absolutely still get in from the college, e-school etc, but it will be harder on average. you will usually have to have a story about why you are not studying finance and why they should hire you over somebody who has. </p>
<p>so it's definitely doable but don't think it will be easy. just curious Cav, what type of internship did you get?</p>
<p>Here's my outlook (and take into account i'm doing engineering undergrad, and will be doing something else like MBA, law, or poli sci for grad school, so i know what you're facing)</p>
<p>Comm school>>
pros:
-you'll have to keep your GPA up your first two years to get in
-comm school upper level classes seem to be not too much trouble
-you can still get pre-med classes in
-you'll have a "back-up" degree that is solid incase med school falls through
-you'll graduate from McIntire, which is renowned
-the finance background might come in handy with medicine with your own practice/handling debt of med school
-if you eventually retire from medicine, you still have a workable degree</p>
<p>cons:
-fullfilling comm school requirements and pre-med and core requirements might be a bit tough...needs careful planning
-a finance major has nothing to do with medicine
-trying to fullfill everything might result in a lower GPA
-might not fair as well on MCATs since you'll have minimal science background
-might not look appealing to med schools without a science background (however, most schools don't care...some do though)
-if you want to one day do research, it might be tougher without a science background</p>
<p>CAS degree>>
pros:
-if you do bio/chem/science, it will be easy to fullfill pre-med requirements while working for your degree
-ability to minor in economics
-other degrees (non science) will be easier to keep up GPA, which is important for med school admission
-science degree would better prepare you for MCATs
-lots of room in degree program to take other classes</p>
<p>cons:
-degree would be slightly less to fall back on
-comm school seems to be your passion
-UVA has prestige...McIntire has more
-if you decide not to do med school, you might not have the other degree you want</p>
<p>My opinion: get a CAS degree, whether it's a science or not. Do your pre-med requirements. Enroll in classes that keep your GPA up. If you can squeeze in pre-comm classes, go for it, make this decision about McIntire sophmore year when you have a better idea of what a med career is like and whether you really want med school or not. If you can't do the pre-comm classes, don't worry about it. Keep your GPA up, and go to business grad school.</p>