waaw UCSF is very prestigious. it’s a dream school for me.
it was hard to be accepted? how did she does ? she was an excellent student
I think people are trying to tell you that med school is really difficult to get into.
Our daughter graduated with her Bachelor’s degree with 1000 others, from her UC, who majored in the “human” sciences-biology, neuroscience, etc.
Additionally, most of those students were trying to get into med schools, dental schools and schools of pharmacy. That was at one undergrad school. The graduations are conducted twice a year- That is 2000 students, at one UC school.
There are 9 UCs in California. If you generalize, you can assume similar numbers across the UCs to equal ~18k students trying to get into a med school.
I’m generalizing because I’m not including the 23 California State university system students whose graduates apply to med schools.
I didn’t include the private universities, in California, with their students who have students applying to med schools. This happens all throughout the United States and there just aren’t enough spots for the thousands of students who want entry into a US medical school.
It’s not simple. It’s not guaranteed. It’s expensive. Her UCSF roommates had $300,000 in loans. Its lengthy. It’s very tiring. Lacking sleep and rest. It’s time consuming. It won’t make money for you immediately; you need to wait about 10 years after residency to have a viable source of income.
You need high MCAT scores, perfect GPAs, and strong clinical experiences. Even with all of these things there is no guarantee that you will get a spot. There just isn’t enough room.
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i understand what you mean !
what is the acceptance rate for med school ?
what is the acceptance rate for med school ?
All US medical schools are difficult to get accepted into. Individual medical schools have acceptance rates in 2-10% range.
For those who have persisted all the way through undergrad, who have developed the necessary relationships with their professors to get excellent LORs, who have completed the extracurricular activities expected of all pre-meds (see below), who have a high GPA (mean GPA for accepted students is 3.75 in 2020), who have scored above the 80th percentile on the MCAT and who apply broadly (16-25 schools is typical) –those students have about a 40% chance of gaining an acceptance. Though with a 17% increase in applications this cycle, it’s likely going to closer to a 35% overall acceptance rate this year.
Expected ECs for pre-med:
–community service with disadvantaged populations
–physician shadowing
–clinical volunteering
–demonstrated leadership ability
–lab bench research experience
Additionally some schools value foreign language skills (particularly Spanish) and teaching/tutoring/coaching experience.
(for each of these activities–with the exception of shadowing-- med schools applicants to have expect hundreds of volunteer hours typically spread out over 2-5 years.
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If they just take general credits, it cuts down on your number of electives and possible advanced classes. You will need specific, course by course evaluations in order to get credit for specific classes.
All degrees include about 45 credits for your major,45 credits in general education, and about 30 credits you can use for anything. Have you looked at degree structures (it’s not obvious from abroad, unless you’ve checked it out).
Can you drive to any university from your uncle’s house, if he were to accept your living there?
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thank you all for your help !!
I received all my financial aid award. I asked for the maximum Federal loan. I applied for private loans : 0 approval with no cosigner and no income.
unfortunately my major #1 problem is the financial side. I am US citizen living abroad …I was thinking that a student loan is easy.
I heard before that we just study and then we pay after and no worries about money.
I received a help from family members and friends and federal grant and federal direct loans I am trying to find a part-time job, but a $8’000 that can make college for me a reality is still missing.
Financial aid counsellors advised me to apply for scholarships and ask for donations. I applied for TONS of scholarships online, but it seems like scams and nothing is reel.
I need $8’000 to make college a reality for me, please if you can don’t hesitate to help me with any advise, scholarship or donation or informations able to make the change. Every single dollar counts ( scholarships and donations can be sent directly to the college )
That’s the major #1 problem for thousands of students. They just don’t have the money to attend.
You can try to contact the financial aid office and ask for more funding, but there are thousands of students doing the same thing now who need funding. The schools lost a lot of money during the Pandemic, so money is extremely tight everywhere.
Private loans are not going to happen, in the US, without collateral AND a cosigner.
Plus, if you are struggling to find money this year, what will you do next year? You won’t be able to work and make $8000 while going to school and making decent grades.
How old are you? Are you 19-20 or older?
Ok, here’s an idea:
Choose a university you like. Could be Miami OH, could be Cleveland State. Email them and let them know you would really like to enroll but don’t have enough money to make the financials work this year, however you’d like to know what you have to do to defer (you can pay your enrollment deposit and “save” your place for Fall 2022; of course, you could NOT pay it and roll the dice, by not paying the deposit now and simply reapplying in the Fall.)
Move to Ohio as soon as you can, by June certainly.
You’re an American citizen: as a result, you can live and work there. Since you chose Ohio, try to become an OH resident. Get registered to vote, get your driver’s license. Pay rent and keep receipts for it.
If you get along with your uncle, move to the same city/town, as he’ll be able to give you some information about life there, even if you don’t live with him. Try to find a job that pays $15 an hour (really not much: it’s just $30,000/year - poverty in the US due to the cost of living. Everything costs WAY more than in Tunisia). Cotsco pays $16 an hour I think. Work as many hours as you can.
By having 12 months of residence in Ohio and living independently (ie., you do not depend on your parents, they do not claim you for their US tax returns, which they wouldn’t since they don’t file taxes in the US and since you’d be living on your own, working) you should be able to qualify for instate tuition and scholarships for Ohio residents.
It’s not fail-proof (I’m not sure working for 12 months will be enough) but it’s a way.
Where does your uncle live? Do you have any other family in the US?
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Cedar Point/Kings Island have seasonal employee housing and are hiring for summer.
Your student loan would probably cover tuition at an Ohio community college and you could work on the general education credits that have guaranteed transfer to Ohio publics and are recognized by nearly every Ohio private as well.
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Why?
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@collegemom3717 I think he is worried that if he completes medical school abroad, he won’t be able to come to work as a doctor in the United States.
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sorry I did not see this post. I was reviewing and I just noticed it right now.
i am already an ohio resident and I have my Ohio ID. 
thank you for your help again !!
my uncle lives near cleveland but I don’t think I can live with him. all the rest of my family live abroad.
please I have a question if you have the information let me know:
someone just told be to look for private college, they have better better funds and they help all student in difficult financial situation if they are accepted.
if I am accepted in a private college and get a good financial aid, the scholarships are not renewable every year and not guarantee.
if it works, the college will help me until I graduate or just the first year ?
You’re only an Ohio resident if you live there, vote there, and have a driving license there. The card is only valid if you use it. It’s not like a national identity card.
For tuition purposes your parents must also live there and pay taxes there (= their taxes entitle you to a discount, called “instate tuition”).
If your uncle lives in Cleveland then the best (and probably only) solution is for you to attend Cleveland state and commute. Move now, work and save money, and when you have enough savings move to your own apartment with roommates who also attend Cleveland state.
The situation depends on what private college and what conditions they stipulate.
Some private colleges will help all students financially. Not all. Further, they might give you a much smaller amount than you need. The colleges that are very generous are also very difficult to get into. This isn’t something you can count on.
Didn’t you already apply to colleges, get accepted and get financial aid packages? IIRC, you applied and got accepted to a private school as well as publics. Did the finances work…or not?
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Private colleges each have their own rules. Most are are very expensive and they will only provide the funds that they can afford.
If you have a “difficult” financial situation, then they can try to help, but they don’t guarantee that they help all students pay everything.
You may end up having to pay more than the current $8K that you need. Assume that the schools can be $40K to $80K per year.
I understood that you wanted to attend this year. Most schools are full for this fall and most funding has been “dispensed/allocated” to their future students.
Private universities will be accepting student applications this fall.
But, you can check the NACAC list to see if there are any schools that will still accept you. They may not accept some of your transfer units. Each college has their own requirements for transfer units.
Also, some private colleges have religious requirements.
Any update? What are you doing for college?