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D. went to state public on full tuition merit (as I said that cheap UG is definitley a plus). She went to Miami U (OH). Her experinece there was well beyond of what was expected of the UG in general. She still loves it, said it was a perfect place for her, visited numerous times after graduation. Again, it matched her personally, not that it would fit everybody else.</p>
<p>MODERATOR NOTE: This thread has been temporarily hijacked by a member that was instructed not to do so; please direct future posts only to the OPs questions. Thank you.</p>
<p>I think I can explain that 100k number. Harvard’s tuition and R&B is about 55k but they send about 100k educating each student. Swarthmore said they send about 40k more than tuition 4 years ago. They both have large endowments for their size, but they might be amortizing the costs of the buildings in addition to salaries, maintenance, costs of utilities etc.</p>
<p>Sorry, I misunderstood the 100k reference to parents AGI income. Their endowment is the largest of all the ivies and their hedge fund managers only had 1 or 2 underperforming years the last few and they get returns as high as 7 percent so the tuition assistance is not a major drag on their resources. The only contrary story I read was the students were complaining about a drop in the food quality a year or two ago.</p>
<p>Their endowment is the largest period. No need to specify among ivies.</p>
<p>Why don’t you look at something in Chicago…out of Minnesota but not so far away?</p>
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Keep reading: amount of money student-athlete may get is dependent on financial need</p>
<p>I stand by my post. Athletes get no different aid then scholars do. The Senate was adamant on this! They like Lucks, they also like Rices*</p>
<p>That later point may concern those on partial athletic scholarships (partial head sports). In such cases, maybe the amount of aid each Stanford student-athlete would get (in total) depends on need.</p>
<p>Some schools keep all their athletic money separate…such as in Team Name Foundation. so, maybe that’s why schools can sort of claim that all their aid is need-based.</p>
<p>Chicago…so expansive to live, so brutally windy…
If looking for something like this weather wise, known for offerring lots of Merits - Case Western would be a choice.</p>
<p>Thank you for all the responses I really appreciate all your advice.
As the year is almost over I have to make my decision for my Top 5 schools. I have already applied to Hamline, U of M TC, and have completed my UC application. I chose UC Berkley, Santa Barbra, San Diego, and Santa Cruz. I planning on applying to Macalester because they make you live at the dorm for the first two years (I’m trying hard not live at my parents house for college depending if that is a financial viable option in general). Also for sure to Columbia Unviersity and NYU. I am considering Brown because of their no core curriculum which sounds fantastic, but it’s in Providence, and I’m not really sure about that city and the area and how winter is, or the weather in general. If you have lived in Providence or went to Brown please I would like to know your experience there. I’m also applying to UPenn if you have went their or lived in the city please tell me your story and how the city and people and school are. I’ve gotten letters from the University of San Diego, which I assume is different from UC San Diego, so do you know what the differences are? Should apply their in case I can’t go to UC San Diego? Since Medical Schools don’t seem to care where you undergrad, I figure I should go somewhere I don’t rack up at ton of debt, but I would like a lot. I’m going with my Uncle this break to go checkout the NYU and Columbia Campuses.</p>
<p>If the brown open curriculum is so fantastic, how can you consider Columbia?</p>
<p>Also: <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/brown-university/1284648-brown-best-place-pre-med.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/brown-university/1284648-brown-best-place-pre-med.html</a></p>
<p>^I always think it’s interesting when I see Amherst or B on the same list as UChicago or C.</p>
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<p>While you may appreciate the advice, you’ve taken none if it to heart. Your list remains essentially the same as in the OP. This includes several UCs despite the fact that multiple members have told you that you will receive no FA and will be paying 55k+/yr as an OOS student all four years.</p>
<p>I’ll shut up now, carry on.</p>
<p>U San Diego is private, Catholic university located in San Diego. It is not affiliated in any way with the University of California system. COA is $52,000/year. USD does NOT promise to meet the full need of accepted students.</p>
<p>I hope you spelled Berkeley and Santa Barbara right on your applications as well. I know it might seem like nitpicking, but it really is important, as is grammar. They both say a lot. </p>
<p>My advice would be to go the the best school you feel you can afford. Even if you get accepted to some, you might not be able to afford them, especially the UCs. I know it may seem unjust, but that’s just the way it is. Colleges are constantly finding themselves strapped for cash, and they’re going to invest it in their own state’s applicants and to students with way higher stats. </p>
<p>If all else fails, UM-Twin Cities is still a good school. You can learn a lot and aim higher for med school. </p>
<p>Good luck with everything, and please make sure you have enough financial safeties.</p>
<p>harvest, see my posts #3 & 48 about spelling.</p>
<p>Entomom
I really do appreciate the advice, but I only mention the UCs because I’ve already applied to them, so I can’t unapply. Also I did check over my grammar, and had my Literature teacher look over it, and she is even more picky. </p>
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I have nothing against a core curriculum. I just think having more flexibility with class choices, yet fulfilling my Major requirements and my PreMed requirements. Again Columbia and NYU mostly for the city. Yet, I necessarily don’t want the the super cut-throat premed atmosphere. I am also looking at the MD/Phd route like you. How was it at Brown? Also how is the city and area near Brown?
Worst case I can still go to UofM or Macalester. So no big deal there.</p>
<p>I am not seeing how is the goal of having little debt is connecting to the list of your UGs. They seem to be on the opposite sides of the spectrum. I mean, you have chosen very expansive schools that are known for no Merit awards.<br>
Also, I do not understand your preference of NYU over U of M (both are very expansive, but living in NYC - overly expansive and a logistical nightmare in terms of going places, have you visited NYC for extansive periods to get a feel how is to live in NYC?)</p>
<p>If you would like to talk more about Brown, you can get my and other student/alumni’s opinions on the Brown section of CC, rather than here.</p>
<p>I recommend you search around a little there first though as (and I don’t mean to be rude) probably every question you’ll ask has been asked before and you’ll get much better responses if you acknowledge what you’ve learned from the existing posts and ask questions based on that.</p>
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<p>I agree about the cost of NYU, and add that their FA is known to be poor. Earlier the OP posted that the UM they are referring to is their IS public, UMinn-TC, not UMich-AA (or MO, MT, ME, etc.). However, unfortunately in their last post they failed to do so, which causes confusion.</p>
<p>OK, now I got it thanks. Which is more confusing, since IS public would definitely be much cheaper than NYU and living in NYC (which by itself is not a good thing at all, besides being one of the most expensive places on earth). I have been visiting NYC every year for at least a week staying with the family. The life is a logistical nightmare in comparison to places like Ann Arbor. I do not know anything about Minnesota, but it is hard to imagine busier city than NYC. I would not drive there, no way.</p>
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<p>So don’t, NYC has the most extensive public transit system in the country (in the world? I know it has the most miles of subways in the world). Don’t see how a gridded, numbered street/city with 24 hour public transit and many things open 24 hours is a logistical nightmare compared to a city where you have to drive everywhere, the streets have no easy to memorize order/layout, and most things (except the college bars) are closed by 8 or 9.</p>