<p>So I got to thinking, how will Cornell fare in the infamous US News rankings this year? While I get it that the whole ranking thing doesn't diminish/enhance the quality of a school, it would be nice to see Cornell fight into the top 10. I mean, #14 doesn't do justice to Cornell.</p>
<p>My prediction: #12</p>
<p>probably #13</p>
<h1>9, but probably way to optimistic, but you never know. Will Lehman leaving hurt the ranking?</h1>
<p>na...if anything, more cornell in the news, higher the peer assessment, if the peer assessment rised to 4.7 that would be a boost.</p>
<p>I really hope the ranking goes up...though it really shouldn't make a difference what US News and their bogus rankings say, a LOT of people rely on them. They seem to have become the standard by which universities are judged in their "eliteness."</p>
<p>Anyway, I'm thinking 11 or 12. Hoping for a top ten, but I doubt it.</p>
<p>Now, what area is holding Cornell back from the top 10?</p>
<p>I'm sure average class size doesn't help.</p>
<p>Than again, Psych101 is the largest class in the United States, and everyone that I've talked to loved the class. . . .</p>
<p>In that instance, I'd rather have a huge class than having a cap on the number in the class.</p>
<p>However, I think intro science classes could be smaller. . .</p>
<p>haha, I sort of hope that Cornell will go down in rank, then it won't be as selective, and I will have an easier time getting in. They can enter the top ten after I've applied :)</p>
<p>selectiveness is only a small component of rank. A very small component...like 5 or 6%</p>
<p>It's a large school and USNWR favors smaller schools. Also, Cornell doesn't game the rankings like a lot of other schools do. It'll probably be between 10 and 15 again, but who knows. The peer assessment score is the most important factor in my opinion.</p>
<p>the reason why we are kept out of top ten year after year is student teacher ratio..its a fact. The year we were #6, Cornell gave the wrong information to US News about our rankings, a year later we dropped to 11. That is the only thing keeping us out of top 10. If you want to read more about it, Professor Ron Ehrenberg at Cornell has done substantial research on it. And no, Lehman leaving would not hurt the rankings, especially not this years rankings as the data was already compiled months ago</p>
<p>How does US NEWS rank colleges anyway? What do they base their rankings on?</p>
<p>
[quote]
the rankings breakdown for 2005 was as follows:
Peer assessment: 25%
Retention: 20%
--6 yr. grad. rate: 80%
--Frosh. retention rate: 20%
Faculty Resources: 20%
--% of classes <20 students: 30%
--% of classes >50 students: 10%
--Faculty salary: 35%
--% of profs. with terminal degree: 15%
--student-facultry ratio: 5%
--% of faculty who are full time: 5%
Student Selectivity: 15%
--SAT/ACT: 50%
--% of students who are top 10%/class: 40%
--acceptance rate: 10%
Financial Resources: 10%
Graduation Rate Performance (trend in grad rate): 5%
Alumni Giving Rate: 5%
[/quote]
from <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=82253&%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=82253&</a></p>
<p>What is your source, eternity? The rankings aren't supposed to be released until August 19, 2005. From <a href="http://www.usnews.com/usnews/store/products/collegepreorder_index.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.usnews.com/usnews/store/products/collegepreorder_index.htm</a></p>
<p>OOPS. I was accidently looking up "Best Values" for the rankings. Sorry guys.</p>
<p>Cornell is #14 and Rice is #17 for the 2005 rankings</p>
<p>eternity_hope2005, what rankings are you using? I have my 2005 edition right here:
1. Harvard, Princeton
3. Yale
4. Penn
5. Duke, MIT, Stanford
8. Cal Tech
9. Columbia, Dartmouth
11. Northwestern, WashU
13. Brown
14. Cornell, JHU, Chicago
17. Rice
18. Notre Dame, Vandy
20. Emory
21. UC Berkeley
22. CMU, UMich, UVa
25. Georgetown, UCLA</p>
<p>I think he was reading it upside-down</p>
<p>I made a clumsy mistake (I edited my last two posts so it's no big deal).I googled "usnews rankings" and then entered the website through the search engine. It relocated me to this page that had the top 50 rankings for undergrad. colleges - I assumed it was for best colleges when in fact it was for "best values".</p>
<p>Oh ok....whew...I was scared for a second lol...</p>
<p>My prediction: 14-15</p>
<p>There's no reason for Cornell to move up unless the US News changes their ranking system.</p>
<p>the change in selectivity and alumni giving will be reflected in the next year or two, not this. I agree with norcal guy. 13-15: right around last years position.</p>