US News Rankings...

<p>Does anyone have an account name and password that I could borrow to read some of the rankings on this website? I'm very eager to see some of the schools that are ranked nationally in several areas.</p>

<p>**** the US news rankings...</p>

<p>You don't want to look at those anyway, it's a bunch of subjective garbage.</p>

<p>(I'm biased because they could have ranked Cornell higher than they did...)</p>

<p>So what rankings would you prefer over US News rankings?</p>

<p>Yeah, the rankings tend to have a lot of inaccuracies. One reason is that a school's endowment per capita figures very heavily into their formula, so great schools with some endowment problems - Georgetown, for example - slip down a lot farther than they should, while schools that are okay but have a lot of money to spend are ranked higher than they should be. There are other problems with the method they use, but I think this is the most glaring one.</p>

<p>Look, the US News rankings don't tell the whole story. It's almost impossible to come up with a formula to rank schools without any bias. But if you really want to know the rankings, they may still have them at the Barnes & Noble.</p>

<p>and they rate a school overall, cornell engineering is phenomenal (even better than cornell as a whole) just like oberlin conservatory is one of the best in the world but oberlin is just a so so school</p>

<p>The 2006 Rankings are out in August...
no ponit really looking at the 2005 ones, things will change a bit soon.</p>

<p>Which aspect of the ranking are you looking for. I can easily copy and past some quick parts for you.</p>

<p>You can't share your US News account and password. A while back, an old cc'er did that and got banned from their US News service. It's a violation of their TOS.</p>

<p>check out your local library. 2005 edition should be available. it may not be perfect, but it is useful in many ways. the editor even admits that in many cases there is "no difference" between schools that are ranked similarly. so, #5 may be equal to #1, or #25 may be equal to #18, etc... they freely admit that they have to split hairs to come up with the rankings...</p>

<p>You don't need a password in order to access it. I googled it, and was able to find the page with US News' rankings in a flash. It's the in-depth explanation of why they ranked the way they did that you actually have to pay for. In case you're wondering, the URL to the US News site is <a href="http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/natudoc/tier1/t1natudoc_brief.php%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/natudoc/tier1/t1natudoc_brief.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Anyway, here are the top 25 colleges in America, according to US News. Cornell is #14, right behind Brown University. </p>

<p>1 Harvard University (MA)<br>
Princeton University (NJ)
3. Yale University (CT)<br>
4. University of Pennsylvania<br>
5. Duke University (NC)
Massachusetts Inst. of Technology<br>
Stanford University (CA)
8. California Institute of Technology<br>
9. Columbia University (NY)
Dartmouth College (NH)
11. Northwestern University (IL)
Washington University in St. Louis<br>
13. Brown University (RI)
14. Cornell University (NY)
Johns Hopkins University (MD)
University of Chicago<br>
17. Rice University (TX)
18. University of Notre Dame (IN)
Vanderbilt University (TN)
20. Emory University (GA)
21. University of California – Berkeley *
22. Carnegie Mellon University (PA)
University of Michigan – Ann Arbor *
University of Virginia *
25. Georgetown University (DC)</p>

<p>why UPENN ranked so high in list? Is it really qualify that position?</p>

<p>Let's NOT go through another dreary rankings discussion.... PLEASE!</p>

<p>reach for the salt and use a grain when looking at these things...</p>

<p>Good call Wharf, lol. These colleges are all top-notch institution and you would not go wrong attending any of them. It's just that the sheer fact is this: Cornell blows them all out of the water! ;)</p>

<p>If anyone has the chance, can you copy/paste the rankings for graduate programs in Chemistry and Physical Chemistry? I'm kind of curious what USNews has to say.</p>

<p>I don't have the login.. so I can only access the top few.</p>

<p>Chemistry</p>

<ol>
<li> University of California–Berkeley</li>
<li> California Institute of Technology
Harvard University (MA)
Massachusetts Institute of Technology</li>
</ol>

<p>Physical Chemistry</p>

<ol>
<li> University of California–Berkeley</li>
<li> California Institute of Technology</li>
<li> Massachusetts Institute of Technology</li>
</ol>

<p>look @ wash U's position...that tells you about how valid the rankings are...</p>

<p>For you ranking buffs here is the Atlantic Monthly's combined ranking of both Universities and Colleges:</p>

<ol>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Cal Tech</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>Penn</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>Swarthmore</li>
<li>Washington University</li>
<li>Amherst</li>
<li>UC Berkeley</li>
<li>Duke</li>
<li>Dartmouth</li>
<li>Pomona</li>
<li>UCLA</li>
<li>Rice</li>
<li>Williams</li>
<li>Georgetown</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>Claremont McKenna</li>
<li>Harvey Mudd</li>
<li>William and Mary</li>
<li>Middlebury</li>
</ol>

<p>O man, those ranking are even worse.</p>

<p>Wow, this is probably one of the worst rankings out there.</p>