Prescreens -- How NOT to do them

The plan made perfect sense. My daughter had been through it all before for undergrad, so she knew exactly what to do. The culmination of a gap year meant tons of free time for her to create a relaxed schedule of lessons, practices, rehearsals, recordings, sample lessons, and applications. There was even time for a summer festival.

And then the injury. Famous violin teacher at festival said her setup was wrong and changed it. Four days later, pain. Regular teacher came for her festival stint, and daughter showed the new setup. Teacher said it was an injury waiting to happen, at which point daughter revealed it had already happened.

New setup dismissed, injury retained. She made it through the festival, came home, seemed okay, and the injury flared. She scaled back on practice hours, went to doctor, who said three weeks no playing. She ignored him, and two days later, pain came back worse than before. So, violin away. Three weeks. Then resumed a bit at a time.

Her teacher, initially positive, announced that she had lost her sound. She wasn’t sure about forging ahead with applications. She still wasn’t 100% injury free but in the end decided to go for it. After months of less-than-optimal and shorter practice times, and weeks of layoff, she had three weeks to prep. The teacher went away for a week; daughter went with her and had daily lessons around teacher’s rehearsals – many hours. Violin boot camp. Half-way through teacher said she was staging a comeback and told her she had “grit.”

On the recording front, she pushed the dates out as late as possible, but good spaces were hard to come by. Made do with some not-so-hot venues – one a large dance studio.

Then the accompanist rehearsal – accompanist fumbling, wrong notes, wrong rhythms. Desperate text to fantastic pianist landed her a single recording session with him last Wednesday (still had to pay the rejected accompanist). She had time for two takes of each of the first two movements of her concerto. Took the second take for both and called it a day. Pianist said she sounded like herself. Daughter not sure.

The other material was sandwiched in little sessions on Nov. 29 and 30. On Nov. 30, 7:00 PM space was insanely boomy. Quick phone call to another place a few blocks away. Trudged over at 8:00. Too dead, but better than boomy. Could hear articulations. Recorded until 10:30. Lyft home.

Applications all night and all day on December 1. Last completed at 11:56 PM. Two schools that emailed with last-minute extensions were completed the next day. 12 applications. 10 with prescreens.

So. She’s not happy with her recordings, but she did her level best under the circumstances.

With her preferred recording of the Bach Adagio (from the G minor sonata), done in the one nice space she had, she realized had strayed a little far into the baroque territory (as she’d been taught, mind you, from her teacher, who knows what she’s talking about). However, her teacher had recommended a more hybrid approach to the recordings; my daughter did put on some vibrato but didn’t realize she had retained a baroque approach to the rhythm – accelerations on runs kind of thing. She did re-record it, but in the end preferred the original – felt it was more beautiful – and so decided to go with it.

On the upload files, with one school, the piece and movement was labelled correctly but not the tempo marking – a result of rushing and being up for more than 24 hours straight. EXTREMELY embarrassing. Oh, well.

Now, she’s in wait-and-see mode like everyone else. Fingers crossed.

Best of luck to everyone else going through this process!

My heart goes out to both of you. I hope your daughter heals completely, and also gets good feedback on her prescreens. Grit is the word.

I don’t know how instrumentalists do it. Sure vocalists have their issues (cough, cough).

Still I’m quite sure that your D was working on music at the same age that my D was eating donuts and watching SpongeBob. Vocalists start out so late and are just “babes” in auditions…still they have to show “nascent” talent. But your whole explanation made me think…was my kid suppose to know something about the music she sang for college auditions (I didn’t get that memo)…bc honestly I think she was just trying to sound good in a foreign language and look nice in her outfit.

Good luck and my hat’s off to you and your talented D!

@StringPop I’m so sorry to hear of your daughter’s injury and the trials tribulations for both of you. Kudos on making the most out of a difficulty situation and best of luck to your daughter. I’m sure the faculty at the schools our kids apply are experienced enough to see below the immediate picture and understand the implications of recent injuries etc. Hope that she will have completely healed come audition time and knock their socks off!!! All the best

Oh gosh, and the Bach story on top of it all–crazy-making! I feel guilty because I forgot to log on and tell you that I got the name of the technique the helped my daughter wrong! The name I gave earlier is a technique that helped her sister who has back problems. The arm technique is called “McShane”. I’m so sorry it’s been so difficult for her! I hope the prescreens are successful… they don’t need to be perfect, they only need to keep her foot in the door. My fingers are crossed for her!

Sending positive vibes to your D! :heart:?

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@buoyant, @bridgenail, @HereWeGoAgain2018, @glassharmonica, @akapiratequeen — thank you for your good thoughts and wishes!

At some point, I’m sure she’ll be laughing about recording in a dance studio with someone drumming in the next room on one side, a seriously loud salsa class on the other, and sirens and honking outside on Broadway. Actually, that’s what was happening when I set up the recording stuff. When I went to pick up the equipment at the end of the session (she likes recording by herself), I found a dance company waiting quietly outside and listening to her play through the door. No drumming. No salsa class. Oh, and then rushing to pack up because she had to get to Brooklyn for another mini-recording session (before coming back for the final night session I already mentioned) I dropped one of the microphones (and broke it). Which prompted a min-lecture from my daughter about the benefits of Alexander technique.

As far as the injury goes, she’s largely healed – the heavy hours she’s been logging the past few weeks would not have been possible otherwise. In any event, she won’t be telling any of the schools about the injury. The recordings will be good enough, or they won’t. Nothing to be done about it. Everyone’s got their horror stories – and I’ve read a bunch of them on CC!

@glassharmonica, thanks. Yes, that’s the hope – that the recordings will just manage to be good enough. The Adagio thing was an added source of stress, but only one school wanted 2 movements of Bach (the rest just get the Fugue). And thanks for the McShane recommendation (and no worries). For now, she’s returning to the rest of the audition rep that wasn’t part of the prescreens, trying to get a sample lesson with the teacher she’s become most interested in, and hoping for the best.

I’m really excited and hopeful for her! She’s worked so hard and seems like such a strong person!

Hi from another violin mom!

Oh my gosh I was having post traumatic stress flashbacks reading your post! My D did not have an physical injury to deal with but recordings can be a nightmare. I have one recording of the Mendelssohn (not sent in) where when she introduces herself at the beginning you can tell she’d been crying!!

She insisted on only applying to 4 schools (scared me to death!), passed prescreens at 3, got in to all 3 and got her top choice school, top choice teacher so there is another side to this mountain!!

I hope for the best for your daughter! Keep us posted!

Oh, no! I’m glad you didn’t send in the post-crying video. Glad it all worked out for your on the other side of the mountain!

We really have no idea what my daughter will find on the other side of hers at this point, but I’ll keep you updated.

Wow, @StringPop --I think I got stressed out simply reading your post! I’m so sorry that your daughter (and you) had all that to deal with at such a crucial time. She is very fortunate to have such wonderful support from you (dropped mic notwithstanding :slight_smile: ), and she does sound very determined. I’m sure that it will all work out well for her, though, and I wish her the best of outcomes. Keep us posted!

@Violinmomaz Aw, that is so sweet and sad (post-crying) and I can totally relate.

Daughter heard from her first school earlier today. She passed the prescreen for one of her top- choice schools — the one I mentioned above that has the teacher she’s very interested in. Don’t know if that’s a sign of more passss to come or not, but it’s a heck of a relief — she was really hoping for a shot at that one.

Fantastic! The process is such an emotional roller coaster… I’m very happy for her. On to even more passed prescreens, successful auditions, and acceptances!

That’s great news, @Stringpop!

@Stringpop fantastic news!!! Congratulations!

Congratulations! After all the trials and tribulations that is wonderful news!

@Stringpop - Great news!!!

My D was still recovering from pneumonia as a vocalist when her prescreens were recorded. She was upset that she didn’t sound as she usually does. She is so worried as she hasn’t received a live audition invite yet. Distance made a vocal lesson impossible before hand. (Canadian applying to US school) Her first choice conservatory also requires the SAT which made her extremely nervous as she hadn’t prepped years in advance because applying to a US music school was not always the plan and the whole SAT concept was a bit foreign to her. Please send good vibes that she gets invited for a live audition…

@NaariyalAmma , you’ve got it! Lots of good vibes to your daughter and you at this most nervewracking of times! Please let us know what happens.
As far as SAT’s are concerned, I am no doubt old-school on this, but I think people go a little overboard with the test-prep class stuff these days. I took the SAT’s without one many centuries ago and got into exactly the school I wanted to go to (Reed). My son had some general testing issues (in spite of his intelligence), but still never did any SAT prep, and he got into a great music program (he’s since transferred to Berklee). If your daughter is a vocalist, I truly believe that her voice and her musicality are what really count. She will get through this–there may just be a few sleepless nights ahead first!