<p>I am a German student accepted to Harvard, Stanford, Dartmouth and Brown this year. I wonder whether Harvard/Stanford are more prestigious or recognized than, for example, Dartmouth. In Germany, almost everybody associates academic excellence with Stanford, but hardly anybody knows the name "Dartmouth". What is your impression about that? Has Dartmouth got an as impressive reputation as Stanford/Harvard in the US?</p>
<p>For universities: harvard has the biggest name/rep
For retailstores: Walmart has the biggest name/rep.
For hamburgers: McDonalds has the biggest name/rep.
For international Television: Baywatch has the biggest name (w00w!)
For rhymes: anything that ends in "aby"; baby, maybe, lady (?), shady
................................listen to top forty radio and you'll hear them all, and with a beat!</p>
<p>Yeah man....Havard and Stanford are better known period, and there's nothing to get around that. However, this does not mean that one will get a better education at those institutions, and with thier significant emphasis on graduate work, I believe that undergraduates will flourish at an institution like Dartmouth.<br>
Dartmouth has the reputation when it counts; amongst grad schools, and job recruiters. If you're grandma hasn't heard about Dartmouth, I wouldn't worry.
I hope you choose Dartmouth, great school, and maybe...just maybe...I'll see you around.</p>
<p>True, Dartmouth is not held in the same regard as Stanford/Harvard in the European and Asian communities. You can't go wrong with any of the schools open to you. Instead, go to Dartmouth for graduate school after Stanford. Good luck!</p>
<p>Actually don't go to Dartmouth for grad, its best for undergrad. Dartmouth isnt as well known in Asia and Europe since its grad programs are not the focus of the school, undergrad is. But its a top feeder into the best grad school and in my opinion is probably the best undergraduate college experiences anywhere.</p>
<p>If you've been around this board as long as I have, and you love Dartmouth, you'd be sick of questions like these, too. Honestly, if you have doubts like these about a school, then the it's just not for you.</p>
<p>What about Dartmouth vs. Amherst and Swarthmore. I understand that it is an IVY, but they are two of the top three LACs, and Dartmouth is not at the very top of national universities.</p>
<p>Not a major issue (I'm considering Grinnell also, and its rep. is far smaller), but one worth considering.</p>
<p>SO, how do you rank Dartmouth not only vs. Swarthmore and Amherst, but the whole range of colleges and universities?</p>
<p>(BTW, because Dartmouth only has a few graduate schools, do programs like Political Science for whom there are no graduate programs (at least, I don't think so), function more like a fairly large Liberal Arts college?)</p>
<p>Good point, its not quite the comparison that I mean. I didn't mean any offense. I LOVE Dartmouth, I just love other schools as well.</p>
<p>I guess the best way to put it is how do the top Liberal Arts colleges compare in prestige (I know their other differences) to the "very top" universities. I know the HYP are sort of unique (although I like Dartmouth more than Harvard) in that respect, but what about all of the others.</p>
<p>Hmm, just as I finished writing that, I realized something.</p>
<p>The phrase that "I love Dartmouth" is quite valid. And it applies to Swarthmore as well. But I don't know if my feelings are that strong for Grinnell or Amherst.</p>
<p>This is a bit off topic, but I am just wondering if that is an indication if I want it to be a choice between those two. It is still hard to get at the 50% cost of Grinnell compared to the others.</p>
<p>BUT, extreme liking is not love. I guess I have some more thinking to do, and fast.</p>
<p>Nickleby, good luck, my DD chose Dartmouth for ED from among those 3, they are all wonderful with their individual strengths - it is a good problem to have!</p>
<p>I know that the head of USNEWS got in a little trouble a few years back when he stated point blank that if Dartmouth were ranked in the liberal arts category it would be #1 that year without a doubt. </p>
<p>Dartmouth is absolutely on par with AWS. I also know that of students admitted to AW and Dartmouth, a slight majority choose Dartmouth over those two.</p>
<p>The adcoms at Williams, Amherst and Dartmouth are very congnizant of the fact that they have an overlap of admitted students because there are a lot of similiarities between the 3 schools. It is not unusual for a student to apply to any one of the 3 and having to choose between any 2 or all 3. My D was one of those cases, as last year she was accepted to all 3. As a parent I would have supported whatever decision she made because I knew she woudl get a stellar education. In the end she chose Dartmouth. </p>
<p>I know that Jblackboy was also accepted to Amherst & Dartmouth and a few others in the class of 09 were accepted to all 3 schools.. In the end, some will chose Dartmouth, others Williams or Amherst . The decision is going to really come down to fit, and what the student feels is best for them. </p>
<p>*The Record's overview of admissions decisions for the class of 2008 is somewhat relevant to our recent discussion of tips. The article claims that "Each year 66 athletes receive tips, increasing their chances for admission. " Actually, the number of tips varies from year to year. I'd wager that Morty Schapiro was involved in the decision to reduce the number from the 70 odd that were tipped just a few years ago. Of course, "increasing" should be read as "virtually guaranteeing." I presume that former editor Mike Needham '04 would have caught that error.</p>
<p>Even more interesting, though, was this quote from Director of Admissions Dick Nesbitt '74:</p>
<p>The biggest overlap of admitted students is with Yale, Harvard, Princeton, Amherst and Dartmouth the usual suspects, he said. Going head-to-head with places like Harvard, Yale, Princeton, if we get 15 percent of those kids, we are actually doing pretty well. Whereas with Dartmouth and Amherst, we are doing well if we split students 50-50. *</p>