Prestige in the US vs Prestige around the world

<p>Any school that isn't HYPSM is on that list. I don't know why this thread was created to make things so complicated at the first place. Within HYPSM, Harvard is more universally known than others. Simple as that.</p>

<p>Well I think with Caltech, as I read once in an article, is that the point isn't to educate at all but to research, moreso than any other school. I don't think that there is any other school with more faculty than undergrads. Also I agree with Sam that Harvard is probably the most known, while Stanford is the least known (for academics) and Princeton is the least known in general.</p>

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Depends on where you're from. And even then, I'd say its reputation is primarily limited to academia and economics/finance circles.

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Think U of Chicago...Nobel Laureates...Physical Sciences (21 in Chemistry and 27 in Physics). I'd say U of Chicago is pretty well known among science students around the world.</p>

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^ haha that's surprising. I would expect a lot of Americans to know it for sports and not academics and a lot of Chinese to know it for academics instead of sports.

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Until recently, Chinese students came to the US mainly for graduate studies. Thus Duke is not really a household name in China.</p>

<p>noobcake,
I'm surprise that Chinese people follow NCAA basketball; I thought they only follow the NBA. Which other NCAA basketball team did that person know besides Duke?</p>

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Me:Heard bout Johns Hopkins?
Cousins:Johns Hopkins... that is for medicine..one of the best
Me: have you ever heard of duke?
Cousin: ummm.. sorry no
Me: ok.. how bout Vanderbilt?
Cousin:no i have not.
Me:U of Chicago?
Cousin:Yea i have, it has a good reputation.</p>

<p>As you can see , he only knew U of C and JHU but failed to identify the rest. I just found that interesting. Maybe it gives a bit of an insight to how some US colleges are viewed in South Asia.

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<p>With all due respect, it just gives insight into your cousin, not how colleges are viewed in South Asia. He's just one person.</p>

<p>Anyway, I subscribe to the belief that beyond HYP, it's all regional. As would be expected.</p>

<p>I think Stanford is known as widely as HYP</p>

<p>In the Southeast, most people view Stanford as one of many California schools. If asked which is more prestigious, Stanford or USC, I believe most Georgians would guess USC since its football program gets so much more attention.</p>

<p>coolman123: I don't think it's as widely known for academics as, say, Harvard.</p>

<p>gadad: That's what I mean when I say that a lot of the recognized schools have good sports programs. Seeing a school in a BCS bowl every year is going to prompt people to do research, and then they'll realize how good a school it is, contributing to it's academic prestige.</p>

<p>I don't think any school is as widely known as Harvard</p>

<p>Once again, the schools that I personally suggested are from MY experiences with the people around me. I am not suggesting at all that my cousin's views are that of South Asia. Obviously not, its just an experience that i shared.Also, this thread is not about making things complicated but to give some people who are not familiar with a lot of colleges to widen their views and to consider more colleges. A lot of people sadly apply to colleges because of how known it is. There are a lot of hidden gems out there too.</p>

<p>Famous some places but not everywhere:
NorthWestern
Georgetown
UCSD
Ohio State
UPenn
University of Chicago
Purdue
Duke
Dartmouth
Brown
William
Amherst
Swarthmore
LAC
JHU
Caltech</p>

<p>Ohio State on that list of famous places? Famous for football I suppose.</p>

<p>rjkofnovi, what's your problem? You're being juvenile and comments like that (and the one I noticed you just made in the OSU forum) are the opposite of helpful.</p>

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Also, this thread is not about making things complicated but to give some people who are not familiar with a lot of colleges to widen their views and to consider more colleges. A lot of people sadly apply to colleges because of how known it is. There are a lot of hidden gems out there too.

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<p>True, but going about it by saying what colleges aren't prestigious universally isn't the right way of going about it. Because then you just get into fights about which is prestigious here there and everywhere, and the real point is -- what are some good colleges for a given person's interests, regardless of whether they happen to be universally known. Take prestigious out of the equation entirely, instead of starting with "what are colleges that people don't know in all parts of the world."</p>

<p>i agree with you for the most part. However, i will say one thing. See some of the other threads and people fight and argue like crazy and this is like a love thread compared to those. the killer ones are esp. duke fanboys vs everyone else lol</p>

<p>Juvenile? What is tOSU known for except football? This thread started as prestige in the u.s.vs. around the world. That's why I asked why Ohio State was mentioned at all.</p>

<p>uhh...RICE, anyone? I think it's definitely underappreciated by many who are not in the general region. I would DEFINITELY add Rice. ; )</p>

<p>But this is stupid. Sam Lee is exactly right. Once you move beyond HYP, <em>every</em> school, no matter how excellent, is well-known and regarded in some parts and not as well-known or regarded in other parts. What is the point of making up such a list, because it's ultimately going to include every school?</p>

<p>No, only Harvard is in a league of its own. Yale and Princeton don't share the same level of recognition outside of the Northeast.</p>

<p>I've found that Yale is pretty widely respected/recognized, and Princeton less so.</p>

<p>People in Asia generally admire the universities that are great in science and engineering, and great in research. Lots of Aians come to US for graduate study in science and engineering. MBA is also hot. So the most popular and most prestigious US universities are Harvard, Stanford, Berkeley, and MIT. These 4 schools have most distinguished faculty members, and far exceed any other university in terms of membership in US national academy of sciences. THe future of science and technology is more or less determined by these 4 schools, along with Caltech, and Princeton as well.</p>