<p>Amongst the elite, the only conservative ones I can think of right now are:</p>
<p>Dartmouth
Duke
Colgate
Lafayette
Vanderbilt
Davidson
Washington and Lee
Georgetown
Holy Cross</p>
<p>By the way, is it safe to say that, in general, republicans aren't smart enough for academia?</p>
<p>dwincho,</p>
<p>What an absurd comment. There have been plenty of conservative professors.</p>
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<p>hahahahahahahahahaha i love it</p>
<p>I can think of one prominent example of a Republican professor: Milton Friedman.</p>
<p>And he was plenty smart enough for academia. Unless of course the Nobel Prize, Presidential Medal of Freedom, and the National Medal of Science aren't "smart" enough.</p>
<p>The exception that proves the rule. Conservatives would rather be getting rich and oppressing those not in their stratum than engage in the noble pursuit of advancing knowledge and work with young people.</p>
<p>i agree with ericatbucknell about the "elite" colleges. they are usually quite socially liberal (note the big emphasis on diversity at HYPSM and thus the acceptance of GLB, etc.) but economically moderate/conservative. that's probably because some come from wealthy families and those that aren't usually expect to be much wealthier having graduated from an elite university.</p>
<p>it's safe to say that as the level of education goes up (bachelor's to master's to Phd) the general trend is to be more liberal (you can find statistics to back this up - most professors and PhDs are Democrats while most ppl who didn't graduate from hs are conservative Republicans). But your assertion is absolutely untrue. I'm all for conservative-bashing (well not really "bashing" except for on some really atrocious policies like Mexico City) but please, have evidence.</p>
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<p>....There are a lot of smart Republicans. Yes, a lot of them "would rather be getting rich" instead of teach. But you're basically calling all conservatives dumbasses.</p>
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<p>I love stereotypes. They make me feel warm and fuzzy inside.</p>
<p>How much money does John Kerry's family have again?</p>
<p>John Kerry isn't liberal.</p>
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<p>Me too, but only those based on truth.</p>
<p>dwincho,</p>
<p>You do realize that while there are fairly large numbers of liberals in academia, there are also significant conservatives as well?</p>
<p>Hell, I knew at least two conservative professors in the UCLA political science department. They were both great at their field, too.</p>
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How could UT be liberal? It's in Texas. I mean, Austin is the most liberal part in Texas, but still.
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<p>Let me put it to you this way. A cross dresser once ran for mayor of Austin and got a heavy majority of the student vote. He ended up with just less than 40% of the vote, if memory serves correctly.</p>
<p>UT Austin is liberal. Though Texas is painted as a conservative state, it's really about 60% conservative and 40% liberal. Typically, of those going to state institutions, the conservatives got to A&M, Tech, and smaller state schools such as UT San Antonio, while the liberals go to UT Austin.</p>
<p>Moderate-Conservative-Duke, Northwestern, Holy Cross, Colgate, Davidson, Bucknell, Dartmouth, Princeton, Rice, Notre Dame, W&L, Bowdoin, Vandy.</p>
<p>Oh boy...</p>
<p>You know what? John Yoo teaches at UC Berkeley.
He both teaches, AND is at UC Berkeley.</p>
<p>That must make John Yoo liberal.</p>
<p>UVa is economically conservative as well.......... well-dressed and apathetic gents and ladies.</p>
<p>Funny, Dartmouth went 84% Kerry in the last election. Even the conservatives are liberatarian. Princeton is the most conservative Ivy, at 75% democrat. None of the top 10-15 schools are conservative, those days passed sometime in the late 80s early 90s. As a Dartmouth alum I personally don't know a single friend who voted for Bush, most of my friends are die hard liberal. The Dartmouth Review, the reason Dartmouth is considered conservative, is protested and ignored these days. In fact, I found just as strong a conservative voice at "liberal" Columbia as Dartmotuh. The truth is all the Ivies are very liberal, with a libertarian conservative voice. The only exception is Brown, which has much less of that conservative presence. </p>
<p>Putting Dartmouth, Northwestern, Princeton and Rice in the same category as Vanderbilt, Notre Dame, and Bucknell is RIDICULOUS!</p>
<p>putting dartmouth in the same category as bucknell isnt nearly as ridiculous as you might think. is bucknell conservative for a top liberal arts school? yes. but thats not difficult when youre comparing it to wesleyan and oberlin and bard, where its 'conservative' the second the school has a registered republican on campus. i cant speak directly to any other schools listed, but id be very, very surprised if notre dame went for bush in 2000 or 2004; educated catholics vote democrat. the only school that comes to mind that is probably close is washington & lee. in other words, even the most conservative top universities are moderate... at best. </p>
<p>democrats outnumber republicans on bucknells faculty at a rate of 22 to 1.</p>
<p>i think the bigger problem here is that people tend to confuse schools with students who dress conservatively as schools with conservative politics. further, as ive mentioned and slipper reiterated, the conservatives are mostly libertarians (though most are registered republicans). homosexuality and abortion arent hot topics: truly free speech and the double-standards (and they do exist, even at 'conservative' bucknell) on many college campuses are.</p>
<p>when looking at top schools the real question is really how far left of center you want the average student to be, or alternatively, how much of a debate you desire.</p>
<p>I agree with most of what you said Erica, but Dartmouth and Bucknell/ Vandy/ Notre Dame are in different categories. Whereas the student body at Dartmouth is overwhelmingly liberal (80%+), everything I've heard about Bucknell, Notre Dame, and Vandy pin it more like 50/50 at those schools.</p>
<p>The same goes for diversity. While Dartmouth is about 1/3 minority, those other schools are 5-15%. HUGE difference. Dartmouth isn't the place people stereotype it to be, those days are long over.</p>
<p>But as Erica said, the only truly conservative school in the top 50 or so is Washington and Lee, if it is in the top 50. Yuck!!!</p>
<p>From Princeton Review:
Washington and Lee has long held a reputation as the school for kids who are "rich, white, and Southern," and according to the current crop of undergraduates, the stereotype remains largely true. One student writes, "Walk into the nicest country club in a suburb near you and you will probably discover a population similar to that of the students at Washington and Lee." Another student notes, "This may be the only place where I think pearls are actually popular among girls ages 18 to 22." Undergraduates "study hard during the week but go out on the weekend. Every student understands the balance between work and playboth of which we do plenty." Typical students are "very intelligent, although not very intellectual, and very ambitious and sincere in their endeavors." Students are also very Republican. One student writes, "Being a Democrat at W & L is like being a part of a secret underground society."</p>