<p>Colleges</a> with the highest-paid graduates - Princeton University (1) - CNNMoney
Full</a> List of Schools - PayScale College Salary Report 2012-13</p>
<p>SO PROUD :D</p>
<p>Princeton #1
The next Ivy League school is Harvard at #13.</p>
<p>Our STEM majors get STEM jobs. Some of their STEM majors get STEM jobs. Our humanities majors go to Wall Street, the government, etc. Their humanities majors go to McDonalds.</p>
<p>All this survey suggests is that Princeton has more students interested in working in Finance. Yale has more students interested in politics, and hence more alums have been elected Presidents and nominated as Supreme Court justices; Stanford has more alums interested in computer science and engineering; Brown may have more students interested in creative arts and literature–hence the many Brown alums who win Pulitzers and other similar book awards. This ranking does not mean Princeton is superior to other top universities…it just means that its student body and alumni may be more interested in careers which pay above average compensation…</p>
<p>^^Agree with Kalorama. I always laugh when I see the payscale reports. You have to understand that they are not comparing apples to apples or oranges to oranges rather apples to oranges…it would be more enlightening and realistic if they compare, for example, economics majors from Harvard vs Princeton vs Chicago vs MIT all working at Goldman Sachs or structural engineers from Caltech vs MIT vs Berkeley vs Stanford all working at Bechtal… I bet they all get about the same starting salary. Also, when you get into professions like medicine, you are going to be greatly humbled when you find that those “state school” graduates are making more money than you. In medicine, historically, the one’s graduating from “elite” schools tend to go into “academic research medicine” which does not pay as much as “private practice”. And I hate to enlighten you that 95% of medical doctors in this country are not from “elite” schools college or medical school wise…</p>
<p>BUTT HURT ;p</p>
<p>lol
you two make good points.
But, I’m not talking about the specialization of each ivy league in a particular field,
and I most definitely was not talking about doctors.</p>
<p>I just wanted to point out that, OVERALL/ON AVERAGE, Princeton grads seem to make much more than its ivy league peers. </p>
<p>This is a stat that you cannot fight. </p>
<p>:D</p>
<p>Are you equally proud that Princeton students did not win any Rhodes scholarships this year? Harvard, Yale, Stanford and Brown all won Rhodes</p>
<p>I love how gravitas keeps trolling the HYPSM forums only to get his alma mater (Chicago) mentioned in the conversation. Some people try way too hard!</p>
<p>@kenyanpride, while I see what you are saying, chicago does have one of, if not the best, economics program in the world.</p>
<p>all I can say as a proud Ptonian is:
all other schools’ trolls have to resort to belittling other schools to promote their school.
Pton’s trolls (well not really trolls, but diehard lovers-I am such a “■■■■■”) just have to mention a fraction of the amazing things here, and people would be so hooked they’d know to ignore those obstinate anti-Pton trolls making absurd claims from incomplete data and cherry-picked examples.
Nuff said.</p>
<p>Ok Kalorama:
You are now a butt hurt HYPOCRITE.</p>
<p>Sure Princeton didn’t have any Rhodes this year, but maybe that could mean Princetonians are more interested other paths than an Oxford education.</p>
<p>By posting that comment, you just did exactly what you criticized me for doing: comparing different schools under the same criteria.</p>
<p>Bottom line: you are probably just sore you couldn’t get into the number one school in the country. Number one not only in USNews and Forbes, but also in that Payroll ranking, which may not mean much to you but to me and others, it shows that Princetonians on average make much more than its ivy league peers. </p>
<p>That in itself is meaningful. Sure, you can go on and cry about how it’s not fair that Princetonians get more high-paying jobs and make the playing field uneven, thus making the statistic “useless.” That just sounds like you are jealous IMHO.</p>
<p>But in the end, it is indisputable that Princetonians on average make more than other Ivy League schools. The end.</p>
<p>jamesbond:
Although chicago is good for economics, Princeton is just as good, if not better. Much of it depends on whether you want to go into saltwater or freshwater economics. Both Princeton and chicago are titans in their respective categories.</p>
<p>Gravitas:
You apparently have an inferiority complex in regards to chicago. Good Lord. You need to stop trying to insert your school in every thread.</p>
<p>Princeton maybe number 1 in rankings by “magazines”. But Princeton is not close to #1 in attracting the top students. Harvard, Stanford, Yale and perhaps MIT win cross over battles handily against Princeton. Princeton has a lower yield than all of these schools – and it is not getting closer.</p>
<p>Also, while I think Princeton is an excellent school, I wonder what Princeton views as its mission: It has a $16 billion endowment and no medical school or extensive medical or public health research? What does it need $16 billion for? To teach a bunch of undergraduates who want to work on Wall St? To fund a small graduate school ?? Princeton is not really a comprehensive national university. It does not really have the vast array of programs, professional schools and research apparatus that is associated with large universities…</p>
<p>The reality is that many professors at Princeton received their degrees from other universities. Some of them even attended Harvard and Yale for undergrad and grad. (And many Harvard and Yale professors obtained their degrees elsewhere too, some of them I imagine went to Princeton.) Why ivymania cannot understand this, I have no idea. </p>
<p>One college is not the “be all and end all” for everyone. I’m happy for Ivymania that s/he was admitted to Princeton, but ivymania needs to grow up a little and stop dissing other institutions, as her professors next year may have attended the very colleges she is now bad mouthing.</p>
<p>Hi everyone!
I just want to say that I also was admitted SCEA, but I sure do not condone ivymania’s attitude.
Please! You really are reflecting horribly on Princeton.
To anyone who is reading: we are not all like her!</p>
<p>“All this survey suggests is that Princeton has more students interested in working in Finance. Yale has more students interested in politics…”</p>
<p>The fact that Woody Woo is just as popular a major at Princeton as Economics (if not more popular) kinda makes your point moot. 1/3 of the current Supreme Court consists of Princeton undergraduate alums. Yeah, people from other majors go into finance. However, the number of Woody Woo + Polisci + History/Misc. majors who go into what you vaguely refer to as “Politics” is comparable to the number of Econ. + ORFE + Misc. majors who go into Finance.</p>
<p>@SiempreAqui, I agree exactly with what you just said 
Congratulations, by the way! I look forward to (maybe?) seeing you around campus next year! </p>
<p>One thing I would like to add to the discussion: Princeton seeks to admit not only students that will build a good classroom, but also a good campus. And after a full semester here, I can attest that they do a fantastic job. </p>
<p>Arguing whether one school is better than another is an endless loop. I mean, if you ask me, I’ll say Princeton in a heartbeat. I have friends at Harvard and Yale that say the exact same thing about their schools. I don’t see why people are still trying to argue this.</p>
<p>hahahah this thread is funny to me for some reason.</p>
<p>@ivymani, @BiologyMaster64 and @maybirthday
While I wouldn’t go as far as to make massive generalizations based on the tiny sample size I have been exposed to on this particular forum, it seems that the Princeton trolls seem to be among the worst around. Ivymania doesn’t even have the courtesy to mask it under a facade of genuineness as kenyanpride and gravitas do…</p>
<p>Note: I know 4 people who were accepted SCEA to Princeton this year, and they are all excellent people (not to mention brilliant).</p>
<p>On Topic:
As several others (virtually all of the non-trolls) have noted, payscale is doing a better job at informing us about vocational distributions than income potential. That is why this list is skewed to STEM schools for instance. Princeton is a curious exception to this rule. I would have thought of Princeton as among the least pre-professional of the elites. Can anyone explain this anomaly (or is my assumption incorrect)?</p>
<p>@Jak
I agree with you completely here - after all, not sure how highly ranked any of you consider “Steven’s Institute of Technology” as compared to the Ivys… But on the same rankings they are slightly above Harvard.
I would say this is due to many engineering based jobs paying decently out of college, and that there aren’t any humanities majors from that university.</p>
<p>I think the reason Pton is amongst the top of the elites is that many of their ecos and politics majors go straight into associate roles (whether they are kept there or not I wonder). These positions pay highly (my sister has gone into a hedge fund from Pton). In addition to these majors, the engineering and science departments are also amongst the top, and therefore produce students who have been conducting research in relatively new fields and revolutionising others that they are able to get decent paying jobs as well.
You do however still have many students who are unable to find a job (not sure if they can and choose not to take it, but point is they don’t go into a job) - for example one of my sister’s friends who was a Philosophy major.</p>
<p>I feel that saying one university is better just because the average pay after university is so much is meaningless - maybe it has grounds with very specialised universities where they don’t offer very different majors.
Better yet, they should conduct this study by departmental breakdowns for each university - Princeton’s engineering/MIT/CalTech/Cornell/Upenn etc… Where there are less variable factors and hence each university is compared more on equal footing.</p>
<p>@anyone bringing up MIT/Caltech/Stevens Institute etc to demonstrate why pay-scale rankings are “bad”</p>
<p>Sure, specialized places like these will have skewed average pay stats, most likely because engineers have very high starting salaries. However, in very intellectually diverse institutions such as HYP, other Ivies, Stanford, Duke the average pay is as good a measure as any.</p>